View Poll Results: Is paying your taxes patriotic?

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  • Yes, it is our duty as citizens to pay into the system that we have reaped the benefits from.

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  • No, if you can get away with it, why not.

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    Re: Is paying your taxes Patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    Surely, you are joking. I am a real and true conservative as per the writings of tom paine
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    Re: Is paying your taxes Patriotic?

    This question is mounted on the assumption that words like patriotism or patriotic are more than just a way to guilt people in doing what you want them to do. People that use them try to put a connection in people to a country that doesn't even exist. It is trying to guilt people in thinking they should be responsible for everyone or help the country as a whole.

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    Re: Is paying your taxes Patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    This question is mounted on the assumption that words like patriotism or patriotic are more than just a way to guilt people in doing what you want them to do. People that use them try to put a connection in people to a country that doesn't even exist. It is trying to guilt people in thinking they should be responsible for everyone or help the country as a whole.
    Nobody has to guilt trip me to pay my taxes. How can a superpower run with no money? The barter system? Taxes are necessary for the survival of a superpower. If you don't want your own country to survive, then I see that as treasonous.
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    Re: Is paying your taxes Patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastIndependent View Post
    Nobody has to guilt trip me to pay my taxes. How can a superpower run with no money? The barter system? Taxes are necessary for the survival of a superpower. If you don't want your own country to survive, then I see that as treasonous.
    I agree. Fighting two wars for over ten years without raising taxes to pay for them is nuts.

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    Re: Is paying your taxes Patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    I agree. Fighting two wars for over ten years without raising taxes to pay for them is nuts.
    Then again, fighting two wars over ten years is nuts. That is something that America should never get tangled in
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    Re: Is paying your taxes Patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastIndependent View Post
    Nobody has to guilt trip me to pay my taxes. How can a superpower run with no money? The barter system? Taxes are necessary for the survival of a superpower. If you don't want your own country to survive, then I see that as treasonous.
    Your definition of treason is extremely broad.

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    Re: Is paying your taxes Patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Your definition of treason is extremely broad.
    You're going directly against the survival of the country. Say you pay $20,000 in taxes yearly. What if a bridge project was $20,000 short (that would be paid by your taxes) and the bridge collapsed during that year? Is that just tough luck because you were too selfish to aid in the survival of your country? Treason

    What if we had to make drastic cuts in our military because a band of citizens refused to pay their taxes? We then get invaded and don't have the manpower to fight the threat and America crumbles. Treason.

    You have underestimated the importance of taxes
    Last edited by TheLastIndependent; 08-01-12 at 09:42 PM.
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    Re: Is paying your taxes Patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastIndependent View Post
    You're going directly against the survival of the country. Say you pay $20,000 in taxes yearly. What if a bridge project was $20,000 short (that would be paid by your taxes) and the bridge collapsed during that year? Is that just tough luck because you were too selfish to aid in the survival of your country? Treason

    What if we had to make drastic cuts in our military because a band of citizens refused to pay their taxes? We then get invaded and don't have the manpower to fight the threat and America crumbles. Treason.

    You have underestimated the importance of taxes
    When the government is buying $500 hammers and $1000 toilet seats, it is not treason to seek to limit how much money they have to waste. If anything it is treasonous it's all of OUR money that government wastes.
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    Re: Is paying your taxes Patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    When the government is buying $500 hammers and $1000 toilet seats, it is not treason to seek to limit how much money they have to waste. If anything it is treasonous it's all of OUR money that government wastes.
    What gives the individual the power to decide how the entire government ought to run. If you want a voice become a congressman. What if you received unemployment benefits and you lost them because a group of people didn't think that the government ought to have their money? I hope you like a cardboard roof bud
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    Re: Is paying your taxes Patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastIndependent View Post
    What gives the individual the power to decide how the entire government ought to run.
    I believe most people call it 'the Constitution'.

    The government wastes more of our money on 'pet projects' and give aways to contributors, than it actually spends wisely.

    Hey, if you don't want to take the standard deduction (and other deductions) and just pay based on your gross income, go for it. But I'm guessing that doesn't happen.
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