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Thread: Is paying your taxes Patriotic? [W:102]

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    Re: Is paying your taxes Patriotic? [W:102]

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    With respect, you are missing the point.

    The laws of the United States are set up so that Romney must pay 'x' number of taxes to be within the law.

    He, as far as we know, is doing just that.

    What is it that you wish him to do? Deliberately pay more taxes then he is supposed to?

    That makes no sense.


    Now, if you have a problem with the percentage of his income that he gives to charity (if he chose to release that information)? That is different.

    But to suggest that Romney (or anyone) should pay more taxes then he is required to is - no offense - silly.
    Except that his offshore accounts provide him with financial benefits at the expense of the US Treasury. So much for his trying to reduce the debt and deficit - looks like he is trying to do that, but not with his money.

    Especially when as ABC reports, "the offshore accounts have provided him -- and Bain -- with other potential financial benefits, such as higher management fees and greater foreign interest, all at the expense of the U.S. Treasury." As a reminder: "Rebecca J. Wilkins, a tax policy expert with Citizens for Tax Justice, said the federal government loses an estimated $100 billion a year because of tax havens."
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    Re: Is paying your taxes Patriotic? [W:102]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastIndependent View Post
    So as long as it's legal it's right? We shouldn't question whether or not he ought to pay taxes on money that would be taxed if it weren't in a foreign bank?
    Legal is legal. If the government and the people didn't want it that way, they would make it illegal. The fact that you don't 'like' it is 1000% irrelevant to anything. Get over it. That dog don't hunt.
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    Re: Is paying your taxes Patriotic? [W:102]

    Quote Originally Posted by mertex View Post
    Except that his offshore accounts provide him with financial benefits at the expense of the US Treasury.
    this is not accurate - Romney has paid taxes on those monies.

    So much for his trying to reduce the debt and deficit - looks like he is trying to do that, but not with his money.
    you mean just like Obama, when he takes advantage of every loophole and credit he can?

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    Re: Is paying your taxes Patriotic? [W:102]

    Quote Originally Posted by mertex View Post
    Except that his offshore accounts provide him with financial benefits at the expense of the US Treasury. So much for his trying to reduce the debt and deficit - looks like he is trying to do that, but not with his money.

    Especially when as ABC reports, "the offshore accounts have provided him -- and Bain -- with other potential financial benefits, such as higher management fees and greater foreign interest, all at the expense of the U.S. Treasury." As a reminder: "Rebecca J. Wilkins, a tax policy expert with Citizens for Tax Justice, said the federal government loses an estimated $100 billion a year because of tax havens."
    Mitt Romney’s Offshore Bank Accounts
    If it's legal, there is nothing wrong with it and none of our business.

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    Re: Is paying your taxes Patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Neither do I have any respect for them. Where I come from respect is EARNED. You want it, earn it. A lot of people seem to think they owed something they are not. They confuse respect with politeness. Nobody is owed either. I dont have to be polite to you and I sure as hell dont have to respect you. Politeness is just good manners. My mama taught me those. There are good reasons for being polite. Respect on the other hand, if you want that get off your butt and go earn it.
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    Re: Is paying your taxes Patriotic? [W:102]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastIndependent View Post
    So as long as it's legal it's right? We shouldn't question whether or not he ought to pay taxes on money that would be taxed if it weren't in a foreign bank?
    You don't like the tax laws...write your Congressperson.

    But don't condemn those for following them.

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    Re: Is paying your taxes Patriotic?

    [QUOTE=haymarket;1060684745]The American university system has functioned for a very long period of time turning out highly educated people who supply American and the world with professionals who continue the work necessary for us to function and advance as a people. If that has not earned your respect, so be it.[/QUOTe

    The American university system could use a wake up call. Like no more subsidies from taxpayers for one. Like no more state and fedrerally backed loans for another. They are by far less cost effective than they used to be, resulting in far less value for the dollar spent by students on their education. I have no respect for institutions that charge confiscatory rates and produce substandard garbage. Unfortunately that is exactly what is going on in American universities today, especially in the Ivy League which used to produce the best. This statement applies to most universities not all. The American education system is no where close to what it used to be, which was the best by far in the world.
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    Re: Is paying your taxes Patriotic? [W:102]

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    You don't like the tax laws...write your Congressperson.

    But don't condemn those for following them.
    Or should I condemn him? He is a politician that, if I'm not mistaken, has talked about the "broken tax structure". Why does he exploit the breaks then?
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    Re: Is paying your taxes Patriotic? [W:102]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastIndependent View Post
    Or should I condemn him? He is a politician that, if I'm not mistaken, has talked about the "broken tax structure". Why does he exploit the breaks then?
    How should I know...ask him.

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    Re: Is paying your taxes Patriotic? [W:102]

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    How should I know...ask him.
    Well let me ask you this then: Can we trust a man who breaks further what he says is broken?
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