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Thread: Is paying your taxes Patriotic? [W:102]

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    Re: Is paying your taxes Patriotic? [W:102]

    Quote Originally Posted by OnWisconsin View Post
    I think this question needs to be asked based on the arguments made in my previous poll. Some people just didn't see the relevance to why patriotism would be associated with where one puts their money.

    Romney has tax havens in foreign banks for the purpose of avoiding US taxes.

    He has made his money and taken advantage of the prosperity that the US allows him, yet he sets up foreign bank accounts to avoid paying the taxes on the money he earned here.

    So the question is: Is paying your taxes Patriotic?

    Remember, this is someone running for the highest (suppose to be) most respected position in the world.
    What is unpatriotic about paying only those taxes that you are required to pay?

    What do you people expect the guy to do? Pay more taxes then his accountants say he needs to?

    As long as he obeys the law and pays what the IRS says he should - then there is nothing wrong with what he did.

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    Re: Is paying your taxes Patriotic? [W:102]

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    What is unpatriotic about paying only those taxes that you are required to pay?

    What do you people expect the guy to do? Pay more taxes then his accountants say he needs to?

    As long as he obeys the law and pays what the IRS says he should - then there is nothing wrong with what he did.

    There is nothing legally wrong with it (although there ought to be). But why would someone with that much money avoid paying the taxes on them? What is the point in that? If I had that much money I wouldn't mind paying every cent. I don't have a problem with it now and I'm very far from wealthy. It just doesn't make sense. He talks about how we can't pay for Obama's policies yet he, along with other rich people, take revenue away.
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    Re: Is paying your taxes Patriotic? [W:102]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastIndependent View Post
    There is nothing legally wrong with it (although there ought to be). But why would someone with that much money avoid paying the taxes on them? What is the point in that? If I had that much money I wouldn't mind paying every cent. I don't have a problem with it now and I'm very far from wealthy. It just doesn't make sense. He talks about how we can't pay for Obama's policies yet he, along with other rich people, take revenue away.
    With respect, you are missing the point.

    The laws of the United States are set up so that Romney must pay 'x' number of taxes to be within the law.

    He, as far as we know, is doing just that.

    What is it that you wish him to do? Deliberately pay more taxes then he is supposed to?

    That makes no sense.


    Now, if you have a problem with the percentage of his income that he gives to charity (if he chose to release that information)? That is different.

    But to suggest that Romney (or anyone) should pay more taxes then he is required to is - no offense - silly.

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    Re: Is paying your taxes Patriotic? [W:102]

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    With respect, you are missing the point.

    The laws of the United States are set up so that Romney must pay 'x' number of taxes to be within the law.

    He, as far as we know, is doing just that.

    What is it that you wish him to do? Deliberately pay more taxes then he is supposed to?

    That makes no sense.


    Now, if you have a problem with the percentage of his income that he gives to charity (if he chose to release that information)? That is different.

    But to suggest that Romney (or anyone) should pay more taxes then he is required to is - no offense - silly.
    What is he donating to in foreign accounts? That money should be taxed as well.
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    Re: Is paying your taxes Patriotic? [W:102]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastIndependent View Post
    What is he donating to in foreign accounts? That money should be taxed as well.
    If the IRS says he is paying all they require - that is good enough for me.

    And it should be good enough for you...unless you are privy to information the IRS does not have.

    If that is the case, then you should provide it to them.

    Otherwise, I think you should not condemn others for obeying the laws of America and choosing to keep their personal information...personal.
    Last edited by DA60; 07-12-12 at 09:40 PM.

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    Re: Is paying your taxes Patriotic? [W:102]

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    With respect, you are missing the point.

    The laws of the United States are set up so that Romney must pay 'x' number of taxes to be within the law.

    He, as far as we know, is doing just that.

    What is it that you wish him to do? Deliberately pay more taxes then he is supposed to?

    That makes no sense.


    Now, if you have a problem with the percentage of his income that he gives to charity (if he chose to release that information)? That is different.

    But to suggest that Romney (or anyone) should pay more taxes then he is required to is - no offense - silly.
    Hi, if I can chime in here for minute: Romney's income, as it's been reported, is fomr capital gains alone. The rate for such gains is 15%. With the amount of money that he's making, that's a problem. Ya' see, it's that kind of thing that's bringing all the heat onto the 1%: it's gambling income . . .
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    Re: Is paying your taxes Patriotic? [W:102]

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Hi, if I can chime in here for minute: Romney's income, as it's been reported, is fomr capital gains alone. The rate for such gains is 15%. With the amount of money that he's making, that's a problem. Ya' see, it's that kind of thing that's bringing all the heat onto the 1%: it's gambling income . . .
    Personally, I believe capital gains should be taxed at the same rate as income.

    But, as I stated before, so long as Romney is following the laws of America...he is doing nothing wrong and how much he pays in taxes is no one's business but his (and the IRS).

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    Re: Is paying your taxes Patriotic? [W:102]

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Personally, I believe capital gains should be taxed at the same rate as income.
    That's the quickest way in the world to drive away investments in America.
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    Re: Is paying your taxes Patriotic? [W:102]

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    That's the quickest way in the world to drive away investments in America.
    Not if you made the income tax rate the same for all Americans AND end corporate taxes (as I believe they should).

    And the quickest way to drive away investments is to have a crappy economy.


    And I don't give a rat's buttocks what people think...it is wrong that rich people can sit around on their duffs and pay virtually nothing in capital gains taxes AND it is wrong that hard working rich people have to be punished with higher taxes on their income taxes just because they are successful.

    All Americans over the poverty line should be taxes equally...period.
    Last edited by DA60; 07-12-12 at 10:17 PM.

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    Re: Is paying your taxes Patriotic? [W:102]

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    If the IRS says he is paying all they require - that is good enough for me.

    And it should be good enough for you...unless you are privy to information the IRS does not have.

    If that is the case, then you should provide it to them.

    Otherwise, I think you should not condemn others for obeying the laws of America and choosing to keep their personal information...personal.
    So as long as it's legal it's right? We shouldn't question whether or not he ought to pay taxes on money that would be taxed if it weren't in a foreign bank?
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