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    Re: Is it Patriotic to have money in offshore accounts?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    -edited since I've more closely read Graham's comments and realized that the OP was putting words in his mouth implying Graham suggested it was "patriotic" for Romney to do it-
    I didn't put words in anyone's mouth. I was simply asking the question that I wanted answered. And just for the record, I voted "Yes it is perfectly fine"
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    Re: Is it Patriotic to have money in offshore accounts?

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    More right wing horse****. The Greek people work harder and longer than Americans. They pay relatively low taxes and their "entitlements" are rather poor compared to many other countries. Their problem is lack of tax collection and corruption. Using the tired and debunked "high tax, big entitlement state" crap is just that... crap and does not reflect reality.
    Greece also provides an object lesson to those who believe that budget deficits are the result of low taxes. Greek taxes run as high as 40 percent on incomes above €70,000 per year. There is also a 19 percent value-added tax (VAT) on all goods and services sold in the country. Corporate tax rates, as is the case with most countries, are lower than those in the United States, but still high at 24 percent. Capital gains are taxed at rates ranging from 5 percent to 20 percent or included in corporate income. Dividends are taxed at 10 percent and are subject to corporate taxes. By far the largest tax, however, is the payroll tax. Employers must contribute 28 percent of wages to the government's social-insurance schemes, and workers contribute another 16 percent directly, making the total payroll-tax burden 44 percent of wages. Overall, the Greek government takes in more than 38 percent of GDP in taxes.
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    Re: Is it Patriotic to have money in offshore accounts?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfoot 88 View Post
    Well, you are overlooking a couple of things.

    1-Offshore accounts can be used to invest in the U.S.

    2-Smart investors will invest in offshore anyways, because it is in their interest. If the government doesn't get its act together, it is the government's fault for driving our capital and not the investor.

    As for the "common good", the government is sending it to hell and has been for decades.
    Sounds like lots of selfserving justification simply to look out for yourself while giving the Italian salute to your fellow Americans.

    And that is what disturbs so many Americans about Mittens.

    You probably cannot change that mentality in a wannabe robber baron. But for my President - no thank you.
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    Re: Is it Patriotic to have money in offshore accounts?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Sounds like lots of selfserving justification simply to look out for yourself while giving the Italian salute to your fellow Americans.

    And that is what disturbs so many Americans about Mittens.
    People, especially selfish people like you, don't deserve anything they don't earn.
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    Re: Is it Patriotic to have money in offshore accounts?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfoot 88 View Post
    People, especially selfish people like you, don't deserve anything they don't earn.
    Why do you stoop to a personal attack about something you are clearly ignorant about?

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    Re: Is it Patriotic to have money in offshore accounts?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Why do you stoop to a personal attack about something you are clearly ignorant about?

    Everything I have is because I have earned it.
    Yet you deserve Mitt Romney's offshore account funds. No, you don't. I don't either.
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    Re: Is it Patriotic to have money in offshore accounts?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfoot 88 View Post
    Yet you deserve Mitt Romney's offshore account funds. No, you don't. I don't either.
    I do not want nor deserve Mitt Romneys off shore accounts. I have no idea where you get such beliefs from. Do you?
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    Re: Is it Patriotic to have money in offshore accounts?

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    More right wing horse****. The Greek people work harder and longer than Americans. They pay relatively low taxes and their "entitlements" are rather poor compared to many other countries. Their problem is lack of tax collection and corruption. Using the tired and debunked "high tax, big entitlement state" crap is just that... crap and does not reflect reality.
    Maybe longer, but certainly not harder. The ones who work long hours in Greece are self employed. They are pretty much sitting in the store waiting for customers.

    Lets rather look at dependent employment, the ones who are employed by an employer. Because sitting at a store waiting for customers is not much work. And multiply that number with work participation. When we do that, Greece is far from being at the top. If we include breaks, and unproductive work. I am sure Greece ends up close to the bottom.

    Greeks are lazy, and yes they are way too dependent on the government. The government spends 50% of GDP which is at Scandinavian/french levels. A lot of welfare in Greece is middle class welfare, who they want someone else to provide.

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    Re: Is it Patriotic to have money in offshore accounts?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You are confusing legality for an individual with what is good for America and its people.
    So should "real" americans only buy american cars? Is it unpatriotic to shop at Wal-Mart as a large % of their merchandise comes from china? In fact is it bordering on treason to use any american cash outside of the good ol USA?
    I think you will find that if all americans stopped doing these things America will be doing worrse not be doing worse not better.
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    Re: Is it Patriotic to have money in offshore accounts?

    If "atypical" mean neither typical nor not typical...

    ...and "apolitical" means essentially not taking sides, and/or not being politically-minded, in political matters...

    ...then maybe we should coin a new word for this question... apatriotic
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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