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    Re: Is it Patriotic to have money in offshore accounts?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Who said I didn't appreciate people investing in american enterprises? Where did I say people shouldn't abide by the rule of law? Also, it seems you're going off the ill gotten assumption that having money invested abroad is somehow inherently against the law.
    The rule of law depends on jurisdiction. That means the important element is land, not capital.

    Modern "conservatives" seem to have forgotten this in their obsession with accumulating capital itself.

    You realize there can be a difference in believing an action is good or bad and believing an action is patriotic or unpatroitic, yes?
    Sort of, but this is a complex issue. Are you sure you want to talk about this?

    I'm just warning you it could get messy.

    No, it's not patroitic to buy products manufactured by child labor overseas.
    OK. Now why is that?

    The "why" is very important in understanding the difference between land and capital.

    It's not necessarily patriotic to buy a product manufactured here in America either imho.
    This goes back to your distinction between goodness and patriotism. I think you're confusing the two since you said "imho".

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    Re: Is it Patriotic to have money in offshore accounts?

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    The word is ambiguous and broad. It is now used as a means of taking cheap shots at candidates for office and therefore holds no true value in political debate.
    Are you saying political debate is not ambiguous and broad?

    If anything, using buzzwords to take cheap shots show a candidate holds the true value therein.

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    Re: Is it Patriotic to have money in offshore accounts?

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    Are you saying political debate is not ambiguous and broad?

    If anything, using buzzwords to take cheap shots show a candidate holds the true value therein.
    Nah, what I'm saying is that I won't fall into a trap of circular debate using obtuse language and hyperbolic assertions. Go prey on somebody else.
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    Re: Is it Patriotic to have money in offshore accounts?

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Nah, what I'm saying is that I won't fall into a trap of circular debate using obtuse language and hyperbolic assertions. Go prey on somebody else.
    I'm not sure why you posted here to begin with then. The thread is about "patriotism" after all.

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    Re: Is it Patriotic to have money in offshore accounts?

    Quote Originally Posted by OnWisconsin View Post
    The question is if you think it is patriotic for anyone running for president to have money in offshore accounts?



    Lindsey Graham: 'It's Really American' To Avoid Taxes Like Mitt Romney Does
    You mean like MANY of our wealthy do? including many members of congress, even the Democrats?
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    Re: Is it Patriotic to have money in offshore accounts?

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    As far as avoiding taxes....No, it is pretty damn low, though unpatriotic has become a somewhat worthless term in the day and age....some use it waaaaay too often.
    so you disapprove, for example, of people deducting their mortgage interest?




    in response to the OP, no. what kind of an idiotic thing is that, to think that having a friggin bank account is unpatriotic.

    If Mitt Romney starts sending money to Iran, let me know.
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    Re: Is it Patriotic to have money in offshore accounts?

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    OK. Now why is that?
    Because the act of purchasing a good is generally not inherently patriotic or unpatriotic.

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    Re: Is it Patriotic to have money in offshore accounts?

    I think everyone sees a big difference between a USofA citizen taking a tax deduction on his house, to include Willard, and parking money off shore.

    In this day and age of political angst where a Candidate can be attacked as un-patriotic for not wearing the proper pin in his lapel, I can see this as fair game in national politics. Afterall BUY AMERICAN is a catch phrase, invest in American businesses, the semi sacred 'Job Creators' (hallowed be thy name) can't stand a penny more in taxes but apparently don't need the unaccountable money shipped overseas by the wealthiest among us...

    it just is one more thing about Willard- outsourcing jobs, vulture capitalism, corporations are people too my friends, off shore money...

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    Re: Is it Patriotic to have money in offshore accounts?

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    I'm not sure why you posted here to begin with then. The thread is about "patriotism" after all.
    true patriotism is defined how?
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    Re: Is it Patriotic to have money in offshore accounts?

    for starters, I would like to see all personal deductions removed, except for dependents, and health care expenses..
    No more deductions for donations to charities, or property taxes, or mortgage interest.
    If you need govt tax deductions to motivate you to be charitable, you ain't charitable.
    If you need govt tax deductions to buy a house, you probably shouldn't...

    I am not qualified to determine what businesses should be able to deduct, but I suspect that a lot of their deductions should be denied as well.
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