View Poll Results: What should happen to those who renounce their US citizenship?

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  • Kept out of the US permanently

    3 7.14%
  • Banned from doing business with American companies in the US

    4 9.52%
  • Banned from doing business with American companies abroad.

    2 4.76%
  • Kept out of the US until they pay back taxes.

    3 7.14%
  • Their property in the US confiscated and sold to pay back taxes.

    7 16.67%
  • The US government should go after them to pay taxes regardless of what country they go to.

    6 14.29%
  • Other idea (please specify)

    5 11.90%
  • They should be allowed to freely enter the US as long as they have a US passport.

    7 16.67%
  • No one should be punished for renouncing their citizenship.

    31 73.81%
  • I don't know.

    0 0%
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    Re: What should happen to those who renounce their US citizenship?

    What a ridiculous OP.
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    Re: What should happen to those who renounce their US citizenship?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I have to agree. Someone who renounces their US citizenship is not an illegal alien. What makes someone an illegal alien is being in the US without a green-card, passport or visa.
    But if they renounce their citizenship, they wouldn't necessarily have those things. So one who does not have a green-card, passport, or visa from another country who renounces their citizenship would be? Illegal alien. heheheh
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    Re: What should happen to those who renounce their US citizenship?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    I have a friend who's very torn about renouncing her citizenship or not. The problem with the USA is that it's the only country that taxes citizens no matter where they live and work, even if they haven't been back home in over 20 years. It's utterly ridiculous. My friend currently pays taxes in both Switzerland and the US. Good thing she can more than afford it, but it's still a really stupid system.
    And they call it the free-est nation on Earth...
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    Re: What should happen to those who renounce their US citizenship?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    I have a friend who's very torn about renouncing her citizenship or not. The problem with the USA is that it's the only country that taxes citizens no matter where they live and work, even if they haven't been back home in over 20 years. It's utterly ridiculous. My friend currently pays taxes in both Switzerland and the US. Good thing she can more than afford it, but it's still a really stupid system.
    Yeah, politicians here absolutely love dumping on rich Americans who invest or work in foreign countries. The laws passed to back up this grandstanding aren't helpful either. They simply discourage these people from investing any money overseas or they just pull up stakes and take it all out of America. These rules only bring in a tiny amount of revenue, and are incredibly inappropriate in today's world of globalized finance. I find it ridiculous that this country, still in many ways the center of global commerce and finance has tried so hard to keep people from investing overseas. Romney is currently being hammered for having a now liquidated Swiss bank account, even though pretty much anybody with a mutual account has plenty of their money invested overseas.
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    Re: What should happen to those who renounce their US citizenship?

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    Any truly free society must allow its law-abiding members free exit. As long as all of their back taxes are paid, I don't see a single good reason to treat them differently than any other foreigner. Many politicians, particularly Democrats, like to get all butt-hurt and go on tv to denounce these "Benedict Arnolds" that "turn their back on America." Here's an idea: instead of punishing people who make money overseas, why not reduce the taxes and regulation that drove them out of the country in the first place?
    Perhaps the reason why you feel so differently that the Democrats you insult has to do with the issue of being an American patriot?
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    Re: What should happen to those who renounce their US citizenship?

    In fairness I think some people have a legitimate reason to renounce their US citizenship. Amy is American and Bob is British. They get married, settle in England and have a little girl named Carla. Carla is a US citizen because of her mom, Amy. She has never lived in the US and only comes over to visit family. She's now in her 20s and under US law Carla is required to pay Federal Income tax to Uncle Sam on all monies earned worldwide. This on top of her UK taxes. She's not a bad person, unpatriotic or trying to cheat the system. IMHO its not right to ban her from ever visiting her grandparents, aunts, uncles and cousins in America for life.

    IMHO the fair solution is set up a limit on US citizens moving money offshore like a $750,000 lifetime limit. All inured taxes still owed. They can renounce their citizenship but they have to leave their money here. Since corporations are people, same for them. We probably have to exclude Canada and Mexico because of NAFTA.

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    Re: What should happen to those who renounce their US citizenship?

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    Yeah, politicians here absolutely love dumping on rich Americans who invest or work in foreign countries. The laws passed to back up this grandstanding aren't helpful either. They simply discourage these people from investing any money overseas or they just pull up stakes and take it all out of America. These rules only bring in a tiny amount of revenue, and are incredibly inappropriate in today's world of globalized finance. I find it ridiculous that this country, still in many ways the center of global commerce and finance has tried so hard to keep people from investing overseas. Romney is currently being hammered for having a now liquidated Swiss bank account, even though pretty much anybody with a mutual account has plenty of their money invested overseas.
    And it's not just the rich. Any citizen, no matter how much they make abroad, is subject to this. I really don't understand the logic of taxing people on money that is not made on US soil. It's abuse, plain and simple. I'm absolutely floored that anyone would stand for this kind of scam.
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    Re: What should happen to those who renounce their US citizenship?

    Out here in California US citizenship is of less and less importance. It's hard to get worked up about something that so many people don't think matters any more.

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    Re: What should happen to those who renounce their US citizenship?

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    Out here in California US citizenship is of less and less importance. It's hard to get worked up about something that so many people don't think matters any more.
    And your verifiable evidence of this shocking development is.............??????
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    Re: What should happen to those who renounce their US citizenship?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    What should happen to those who renounce their US citizenship? This a multiple choice poll and users can see how you voted.


    Kept out of the US permanently
    Banned from doing business with American companies in the US
    Banned from doing business with American companies abroad.
    Kept out of the US until they pay back taxes.
    Their property in the US confiscated and sold to pay back taxes.
    The US government should go after them to pay taxes regardless of what country they go to.
    Other idea(please specify)
    They should be allowed to freely enter the US as long as they have a US passport.
    No one should be punished for renouncing their citizenship.
    I don't know.



    Personally I feel that if someone renounces their American citizenship then they should never be allowed back into the US including it's territories, nor should they be allowed to do business with any American company.I don't care what someone's reasons are for renouncing their citizenship.
    We let people who are natives of countries we warred with visit the U.S.

    Banning someone for renouncing their citizenship is silly as hell.

    Also, just because someone renounces their US citizenship does not inherently mean that they do it out of acrimony. It may be that they do it for some other reason. Like they've got a job in another country, are raising their children there, and would rather be involved in the democratic process of where they have now made their home.

    Doing this is like being someone who thinks that whenever an intimate relationship must break up it has be an angry break up instead of a mature ending of the relationship. Which, again, is silly as all hell.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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