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Thread: Do Liberals Hate "Cold" People?

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    Re: Do Liberals Hate "Cold" People?

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    One of the things liberals seem to have in common is a belief that people are naturally emotionally driven, and that anyone who isn't deserves to be suspected of guilt from the instant you meet them. If you're not active nor active in a compatible way, liberals really enjoy making a popular appeal to emotional misery, expecting those who feel differently to conform or be institutionalized.

    I suspect this is why liberals support universal health care, welfare, environmental regulation, demographic equality, and labor reform. Ultimately, it's a psychological issue. Liberals just don't understand (or care) how different people can feel differently. They don't realize how everyone isn't born with fiery emotional gumption, and resist letting "cold" people take their time, planning out how to live their own lives.

    It's like they deliberately want to sabotage cool minds in order to prevent them from getting ahead. That way, they become dependent on bureaucracy to fix their problems and help them assimilate into society. Besides, bureaucrats need jobs too. If it ain't broke, and you're a repairman, you need to break something in order to fix it.
    This entire post is based on a false premise and is therefore irrelevant.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Re: Do Liberals Hate "Cold" People?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I would have to disagree. I believe that some cultures are self-evidently superior to others. For instance, there's the culture of Afganistan under the Taliban, where schoolgirls were burned for daring to learn to read. There's are or have been cultures that were built on conquest and slavery, horrific exploitation of the masses by the rulers, denigration of women into virtual slavery, a general devaluation of life, disdain for education and science and progress, and so on.

    Some cultures are better at promoting the greatest good for the greatest number; some suck at it. Some cultures tolerate and even promote constant petty thievery, quasi-random acts of severe violence, unbelieveably harsh punishments for relatively minor offenses, pandemic corruption, and institutional inequality.

    In brief, some cultures are just plain ****ed up.

    Others plainly and clearly promote productivity, prosperity, peace, honesty, ethics, virtue and benevolence far more so than most.

    Another way of putting it is that some cultures are based on the best-possible solution to the Prisoner's Dilemma, and others are based on far less than optimal solutions.
    1. I don't think all cultures are equal either and I also don't think many people believe that either which is why I believe this thread and your initial comment was based on a faulty premise: that multiculturalism, in any of it's noticeable forms, advocated the belief that ALL cultures are equal and in turn, worthy of integration into American society. This is why you don't see multicularists advocating that Taliban-like cultures should be welcomed here. So, we don't actually disagree on that point.

    2. None of this changes the fact that when we evaluate the value of a certain culture, we are doing so from a particularly perspective. It may be "self-evident" that certain cultures are more economically productive (within the dominant economic system) and that others are more likely to ensure peace and survival. However, it's not "self-evident" that certain cultures are more preferable for human beings over others simply because human beings value different things and honor might trump survival for certain cultures. That is the one of the foundations of multiculturalism that I was talking about, the foundation that doesn't care if we have a common language or food or whatever.

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    Re: Do Liberals Hate "Cold" People?

    The biggest difference, that I see, is that many on the left think that gov't should be able to demand "compassion" or "social justice" and that not having equality of outcome automatically indicates not having equality of opportunity. If I choose to help my neighbor in need, then that is charity, but if the gov't demands that I help your neighbor in need that is tyranny. The left NEVER agrees with this assertion.

    The left sees ALL inequality of outcome or "need" as having been caused by, or as the direct result of, some mysterious outside force (that can never be quite defined or eliminated), well beyond the control of the "afflicted" individual. It matters not, to them, that the person is drunk, uneducated and poor because they made MANY bad choices in life, that is NEVER the "root cause", only the description of the "problem".

    Thus the solution is NEVER to tell an irresponsible moron to get sober, get an education and get a job, it is always that public "help" is needed, and therefore deserved, to be provided by taking from those "more fortunate" folks (by gov't force) and given to that "victim", of course, with a generous amount skimmed off to support the "helpers" too.

    Any that should DARE to object, to this nonsense, are said to be cold and mean.
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    Re: Do Liberals Hate "Cold" People?

    Why do some people classify others solely by their supposed political lean?

    Why does this thread even exist? What kind of a question is this? How am possibly supposed to answer this?

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    Re: Do Liberals Hate "Cold" People?

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    I'll disagree. Ever tried debating a Conservative on abortion? It's based almost exclusively on feeling. There is little scientific or philosophic evidence behind their claims. Also, I'd consider Conservatives more emotional when it impacts them as opposed to Liberals who are more emotional when it impacts others.
    Or gay marriage, or "law and order". Again, this is a stupid, stupid thread.

    Somebody, anybody, please; how's about a courtesy flush?

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    Re: Do Liberals Hate "Cold" People?

    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalModerate View Post
    Why do some people classify others solely by their supposed political lean?
    It's called pattern-recognition and it's how humans assess situations. Rather than considering that every situation might be different, we use experience to assess. Usually, that works, however, in the political arena, such as this thread, what we see is overgeneralizations that have little basis in reality. In politics, it's often a shortcut used by the most partisan who prefer to remain pigeon-holed in their lack of objectivity.

    Why does this thread even exist? What kind of a question is this? How am possibly supposed to answer this?
    You don't answer it since the thread is based on a false premise. What you do is point out the lack of accuracy and logic of the thread and move on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Re: Do Liberals Hate "Cold" People?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    You don't answer it since the thread is based on a false premise. What you do is point out the lack of accuracy and logic of the thread and move on.
    Fair enough. Can I hang around and complain about it some more?

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    Re: Do Liberals Hate "Cold" People?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Liberals do seem, in the general sense and with exceptions, to be more emotion-driven than conservatives or other ideologies.
    As a conservative, who semi-regularly reads these boards, I just wanted to let you know I got a good chuckle from that.

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    Re: Do Liberals Hate "Cold" People?

    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalModerate View Post
    Fair enough. Can I hang around and complain about it some more?
    Nah. Move on. There are plenty of other threads that aren't so illogical where you can participate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Re: Do Liberals Hate "Cold" People?

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    I'll disagree. Ever tried debating a Conservative on abortion? It's based almost exclusively on feeling. There is little scientific or philosophic evidence behind their claims. Also, I'd consider Conservatives more emotional when it impacts them as opposed to Liberals who are more emotional when it impacts others.
    Woohoo, lets refute one vast generalization with another! I say next we start calling each other "barf-breath" and "dookie-brains"

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