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  • Yes, blacks have their own heritage.

    13 81.25%
  • Yes, blacks can create something else.

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  • No, blacks lack heritage.

    0 0%
  • No, black identity politics depend on government.

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    Re: African American Heritage

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    That is all quite true, yet the OTHER side of that is giving an excuse to any group based on "historic" bias factors is also terribly wrong and demeaning. If one EXPECTS a lower standard of achievement/behavior then that is often a self fulfilling prophecy. I am sick of excusing unacceptable social behavior based on race, there is no racial "reason" for (not) using profanity in public, or (not) being intentionally rude, loud and obnoxious in public. I have been threatened for merely asking that loud profanity be ceased in my presense and that of my children, and have often been accused of being racist for even pointing it out, even though I do this for ALL who exhibit such rude behavior (most were white morons). I find this use, by those blacks, of the "race card" sickening and offensive, as if they are OWED some special privilege based on their race being different than mine, as if I am acting "too white". At least "rednecks" do not USUALLY accuse my manners of being "yankee like", or any other such nonsense, and they most often do not respond with threats, but appologize and accept my request to tone it down a bit.
    You and I were talking about two different things...your talking about behavior of some people...I was talking about people in general.

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    Re: African American Heritage

    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalModerate View Post
    Johnson was a cyncial racist for signing the Civil Rights Act...Lincoln was an American hero for signing the Emancipation Proclamation, because he did it out of the goodness of his heart.

    Is this supposed to be a joke? I agree that Lincoln was a great President but the Emancipation Proclamation was a purely political move on his part. It only freed the slaves in the Confederate states and not in those slave-owning states that sided with the Union.

    LBJ was far less cynical in supporting civil rights because he was quite aware of the political consequences
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    Re: African American Heritage

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    If MLK Day, Black History Month, Kwanzaa, and other political "holidays" didn't exist, would African Americans have anything to celebrate?
    Unfortunately, for many of them, their heritage is a mystery to them, since the original Africans were brought here by force, and there are likely few legal records they can search through looking for their history.
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    Re: African American Heritage

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    ...The only reason they remain conservative is because it's politically incorrect to be prejudiced.
    along with ignorant, childish, & bigoted.

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    Re: African American Heritage

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    You mean the civil rights act where Johnson said

    "I'll have them n****** voting Democratic for the next two hundred years."...
    what a pathetic lie.

    what he actually said is that the Voting Rights & Civil Rights Acts would lose the South for the Democrats for a generation, and he was right.

    but he did it anyway, cause it was the right & just thing to do.

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    Re: African American Heritage

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    I grew up in a predominately black communtiy, was one of maybe a handful of white kids in a black school, and my step dad is african american. But good try, none the less



    I'm not sure hiking out lord peanut does anything beyond highlighting their very marginalized status in american history. If you disagree your welcome to explain why, as opposed to getting angry and making assumptions about my race and cultural experience
    yeah - we get it... some of your best friends .... and blah blah blah.
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    Re: African American Heritage

    1. As much as any man, MLK brought moral clarity to one half our nation when we sorely needed it, and peaceful hearts to the other half, who needed it just as badly. He's a national hero for all Americans of all colors for that gift. He doesn't "belong" to blacks any more than James Madison "belongs" to whites or John Adams "belongs" to redheads.

    2. I detest generally the notion that we should single out specific ethnicities at the government level for any reason whatsoever. Colorblindness will serve us better. Having the government enable Black Heritage probably does to Black Heritage what having government enable Churches does to Faith.

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    Re: African American Heritage

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    yeah - we get it... some of your best friends .... and blah blah blah.
    just like we get that you like to play the race card. You may have noticed that, like an overdrawn credit card, it has lost its' effectiveness from abuse?

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    Re: African American Heritage

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Is this supposed to be a joke? I agree that Lincoln was a great President but the Emancipation Proclamation was a purely political move on his part. It only freed the slaves in the Confederate states and not in those slave-owning states that sided with the Union.

    LBJ was far less cynical in supporting civil rights because he was quite aware of the political consequences
    When LBJ was a Senator he was 100% in favor of segregation, up to and including opposing anti-lynching laws.

    Lincoln at least believed in freedom for the slave.

    When as a President Johnson changed his mind and decided to push through the Civil Rights Act... how did he justify it? Did he point to any alteration in his beliefs?

    I'll have them niggers voting Democrat for 200 years were, I believe, his words on the occasion. Yes. Much less cynical
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    Re: African American Heritage

    All of the human race has cultural, biological and traditional heritage. We are all just the human race and ...the degree in which one relates to their biological, cultural or traditional heritage is individual.

    I do not really broad brush any group of people.

    Many of you are mixed race and do not even know of it.

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