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  • Yes, blacks have their own heritage.

    13 81.25%
  • Yes, blacks can create something else.

    1 6.25%
  • No, blacks lack heritage.

    0 0%
  • No, black identity politics depend on government.

    2 12.50%
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    Re: African American Heritage

    I read these racial threads and I shake my head, I dont participate because I know its impossible to converse with anyone that has no personal first hand knowledge of what they are talking about..
    Im older than most of you and I grew up with more myths and mystiques about black people than any of you have with all the education and improvements and laws....I should be the racist...Career big city cop...but Im not and I never was...and thats because I was taught by my father a simple rule....Live and let live that what he always said....If your raised a racist you have alot better chance of growing up one and viewing people through blinders...My military service and my career as a police officer and my growin up in an all mixed up neighborhood...allowed me the privledge of being around many different types of people....and Ive met many good ones that didnt look like me...and theres probably more white guys that I cant friggin stand than any other shade darker...just because theres more of us....
    I dont base my racial beliefs on textbooks...political correctness...or liberal stuff...I base on WTF ive lived through and seen...I like the way I am...I dont have to walk around hating anyone...until they make me hate them
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    Re: African American Heritage

    I don't mind celebrating an American history that includes all history whether you're black, white, or whatever. But the attitude and notion that people should have their own official histories sanctioned by the govt is total horse**** and divisive.
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    Re: African American Heritage

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    I read these racial threads and I shake my head, I dont participate because I know its impossible to converse with anyone that has no personal first hand knowledge of what they are talking about..
    Im older than most of you and I grew up with more myths and mystiques about black people than any of you have with all the education and improvements and laws....I should be the racist...Career big city cop...but Im not and I never was...and thats because I was taught by my father a simple rule....Live and let live that what he always said....If your raised a racist you have alot better chance of growing up one and viewing people through blinders...My military service and my career as a police officer and my growin up in an all mixed up neighborhood...allowed me the privledge of being around many different types of people....and Ive met many good ones that didnt look like me...and theres probably more white guys that I cant friggin stand than any other shade darker...just because theres more of us....
    I dont base my racial beliefs on textbooks...political correctness...or liberal stuff...I base on WTF ive lived through and seen...I like the way I am...I dont have to walk around hating anyone...until they make me hate them
    That is all quite true, yet the OTHER side of that is giving an excuse to any group based on "historic" bias factors is also terribly wrong and demeaning. If one EXPECTS a lower standard of achievement/behavior then that is often a self fulfilling prophecy. I am sick of excusing unacceptable social behavior based on race, there is no racial "reason" for (not) using profanity in public, or (not) being intentionally rude, loud and obnoxious in public. I have been threatened for merely asking that loud profanity be ceased in my presense and that of my children, and have often been accused of being racist for even pointing it out, even though I do this for ALL who exhibit such rude behavior (most were white morons). I find this use, by those blacks, of the "race card" sickening and offensive, as if they are OWED some special privilege based on their race being different than mine, as if I am acting "too white". At least "rednecks" do not USUALLY accuse my manners of being "yankee like", or any other such nonsense, and they most often do not respond with threats, but appologize and accept my request to tone it down a bit.
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    Re: African American Heritage

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    Re: African American Heritage

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    The question"what did MLK actually accomplish" was a good one. I remember him as a peaceful protest leader but I can't recall anything that actually changed due to his protest unlike Gandhi who made a real difference. If anyone can give some specifics I would like to see them, I always thought MLK was a great man but the quoted question has me thinking. Having said that I remember the day he was killed. I was at a friends house and when the news came on TV his mom said, "bout time somebody shot that uppity n*****". That kinda floored me.
    *cough *Civil Rights Act of 1964* cough*
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    Re: African American Heritage

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I don't mind celebrating an American history that includes all history whether you're black, white, or whatever. But the attitude and notion that people should have their own official histories sanctioned by the govt is total horse**** and divisive.
    Sure is. When are they going to start teaching Native American history in schools? Actually - when are we going to start teaching that George Washington was the slave owning father of a nation who allowed Natives to be massacred? When are we going to start teaching that the guys who wrote "all men are created equal" really meant: all white protestant men of legal age are created equal? Or are we only going to start teaching the revisionist nonsense you believe in?

    I'll make you a deal - when we start teaching a history that is not only non-rhetorical and concise but also inclusive of relevant aspects - you can preach to us about the "divisiveness" of teaching history that isn't white washed. Until then, hey, I'll guess I'll keep Black History Month and you can keep your creationism and beliefs that the FFs were demigods.
    Last edited by Hatuey; 07-08-12 at 03:54 PM.
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    Re: African American Heritage

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    *cough *Civil Rights Act of 1964* cough*
    You mean the civil rights act where Johnson said

    "I'll have them n****** voting Democratic for the next two hundred years."

    That civil rights act?

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    Re: African American Heritage

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    You mean the civil rights act where Johnson said

    "I'll have them n****** voting Democratic for the next two hundred years."

    That civil rights act?
    Johnson was a cyncial racist for signing the Civil Rights Act...Lincoln was an American hero for signing the Emancipation Proclamation, because he did it out of the goodness of his heart.

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    Re: African American Heritage

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Sure it is. The day we drop the revisionist premise that the civil war was anything other than a war over slavery, I'll agree. Actually, the day the collective South(whether old or new) stops pretending that being a Confederate is anything other than treason, I'll agree.
    So your saying that the contributions of black historical figures had no impact on what this country is today? Are you saying that the civil war wouldn't have happened if the south banned slavery and still separated? I noticed that the US didn't go after any other country for practicing slavery after the civil war was over.
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    Re: African American Heritage

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    You mean the civil rights act where Johnson said

    "I'll have them n****** voting Democratic for the next two hundred years."

    That civil rights act?
    Since LBJ never said any such thing, I must assume the commenter hasn't studied 'real' American history. The relevant comment from the "racist" LBJ after he had signed the Civil Rights Bill was "We have lost the South for a generation."
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