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  • Yes, blacks have their own heritage.

    13 81.25%
  • Yes, blacks can create something else.

    1 6.25%
  • No, blacks lack heritage.

    0 0%
  • No, black identity politics depend on government.

    2 12.50%
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    Re: African American Heritage

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Black History month is just as much American history as George Washington and Ben Franklin are.It should be integrated into regular history instead of designated to just a month. MLK day is important to all Americans not just to black Americans.

    Black History Month always struck me as a bit patronizing, being that the people celebrated, in most cases, seem to be these very minor characters that no one would even likely care about, short of their skin color.

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    Re: African American Heritage

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    Certainly, but what did MLK accomplish?
    The fight for a more equal just society, he lead a movement that was against poverty, war, and racism. He wanted to end the ignorant ways of segregation, hatred, for the simple reason that he is a different color of skin. He was a great leader to bring about the end of lawful segregation in the South and all over the world. He fought for a more just society and fought to end poverty. He was a huge leader in the anti-war movement as well.
    If you cant see any of that then your simply blind and a bigot.


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    Re: African American Heritage

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    Since you're a socialist, I pity you for not understanding the difference between culture and ethnicity.

    Here's a hint - who you are is defined beyond what you are. Historical materialism isn't the end all to be all.
    MLK was a socialist as well...


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    Re: African American Heritage

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Black History month is just as much American history as George Washington and Ben Franklin are.It should be integrated into regular history instead of designated to just a month. MLK day is important to all Americans not just to black Americans.
    Sure it is. The day we drop the revisionist premise that the civil war was anything other than a war over slavery, I'll agree. Actually, the day the collective South(whether old or new) stops pretending that being a Confederate is anything other than treason, I'll agree.
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

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    Re: African American Heritage

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    MLK was a socialist as well...
    That's understandable. It comes from his Baptist lineage which is grounded in the Protestant Work Ethic.

    Ergo, it's no surprise he had such loyalty to labor theory of value, struggle, and standing up for blacks' economic plight.

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    Re: African American Heritage

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    Black History Month always struck me as a bit patronizing, being that the people celebrated, in most cases, seem to be these very minor characters that no one would even likely care about, short of their skin color.
    I love the way that sheltered white folks preach to black folks about what is best for them and how they should be insulted about certain things that they are proud of.
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    Re: African American Heritage

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    That's understandable. It comes from his Baptist lineage which is grounded in the Protestant Work Ethic.

    Ergo, it's no surprise he had such loyalty to labor theory of value, struggle, and standing up for blacks' economic plight.
    Just because your Baptist does not make you all the sudden a socialist. I know many baptists, and not one of them are socialist. Most of them are conservative republicans or libertarians.


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    Re: African American Heritage

    The question"what did MLK actually accomplish" was a good one. I remember him as a peaceful protest leader but I can't recall anything that actually changed due to his protest unlike Gandhi who made a real difference. If anyone can give some specifics I would like to see them, I always thought MLK was a great man but the quoted question has me thinking. Having said that I remember the day he was killed. I was at a friends house and when the news came on TV his mom said, "bout time somebody shot that uppity n*****". That kinda floored me.

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    Re: African American Heritage

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I love the way that sheltered white folks preach to black folks
    I grew up in a predominately black communtiy, was one of maybe a handful of white kids in a black school, and my step dad is african american. But good try, none the less

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    about what is best for them and how they should be insulted about certain things that they are proud of.
    I'm not sure hiking out lord peanut does anything beyond highlighting their very marginalized status in american history. If you disagree your welcome to explain why, as opposed to getting angry and making assumptions about my race and cultural experience
    Last edited by Dr. Chuckles; 07-08-12 at 02:47 PM.

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    Re: African American Heritage

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Just because your Baptist does not make you all the sudden a socialist. I know many baptists, and not one of them are socialist. Most of them are conservative republicans or libertarians.
    Right. The Protestant Work Ethic and labor theory of value don't just apply to socialism.

    Classic liberals have approved of LTV since Adam Smith, and conservatives advocate rugged individualism all the time.

    Many of these will turn into national socialists when pressed, however. The only reason they remain conservative is because it's politically incorrect to be prejudiced.

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