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  • Yes, blacks have their own heritage.

    13 81.25%
  • Yes, blacks can create something else.

    1 6.25%
  • No, blacks lack heritage.

    0 0%
  • No, black identity politics depend on government.

    2 12.50%
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Thread: African American Heritage

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    Re: African American Heritage

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    If I understand the question correctly it's asking if you take away all the holidays associated with a group of people whether they would have any holidays left?
    It's a weird question, but I think it centers around Dak calling them "political" holidays. I'm guessing this came up because of Chris Rock's tweet about the 4th of July being a white holiday.
    Last edited by X Factor; 07-08-12 at 10:01 AM.

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    Re: African American Heritage

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    MLK day: not about being black, but about celebrating one of the great Americans of the last 50 years. When are you so fixated on race?
    Why is he great?

    Is presidents day a white holiday? Your logic suggests it would be.
    I'm not sure what the Presidency has to do with being white.

    Black History Month: Maybe you missed it, but the history taught in most schools is very Eurocentric. There is no harm is looking at history of other areas, and I would similarly like an Asian history month.
    OK, so what history are we talking about?

    Kwanzaa: Really? Not even a national holiday, and I do not know one black person who actually celebrates it,
    If black people don't celebrate it, why does it exist?

    and you want to make a big deal about it? Do you get pissed off about Saint Patrick's day too? Cinco De Mayo? Yesterday was Tanabata. Did you get worked up about it?
    No. Those holidays actually have narratives behind them.

    If anything, people got worked up in fabricating something as superficial as Kwanzaa.
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    Re: African American Heritage

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    Why is he great?
    Helped a significant portion of our population fight for and attain more equal rights, and did so emphasizing peaceful methods. Have you taken any history courses at all?

    I'm not sure what the Presidency has to do with being white.
    Hey, the point is almost going home for you. The presidency has nothing to do with race, nor does contributing to your country. When you look at MLK, you see a black man, I see a man. It is a large difference.

    OK, so what history are we talking about?
    We should talk about all of it.

    If black people don't celebrate it, why does it exist?
    Well, proof that there are dumb questions.

    No. Those holidays actually have narratives behind them.
    As do the holidays you mentioned.

    Your race baiting failed, sorry.
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    Re: African American Heritage

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    Why is he great?
    If you don't have respect for what MLK accomplished and in a peaceful way, you're doing it wrong.

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    Re: African American Heritage

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Helped a significant portion of our population fight for and attain more equal rights, and did so emphasizing peaceful methods. Have you taken any history courses at all?
    Equal rights for which significant portion?

    Hey, the point is almost going home for you. The presidency has nothing to do with race, nor does contributing to your country. When you look at MLK, you see a black man, I see a man. It is a large difference.
    Your mindreading skills need more work.

    You also seem to be ignoring how so many black men emulate MLK as a role model.

    We should talk about all of it.
    What black history should we talk about?

    As do the holidays you mentioned.
    What narrative does Kwanzaa have?

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    Re: African American Heritage

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    If you don't have respect for what MLK accomplished and in a peaceful way, you're doing it wrong.
    Certainly, but what did MLK accomplish?

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    Re: African American Heritage

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    Certainly, but what did MLK accomplish?
    You really are trolling for a bad response simply so you can say - "See I told ya so!" Useless and racist in its basic premise while showing great ignorance of your nation's history.

    If you have ever had a blood transfusion, you must give credit to a black man. I'll let you do the Google
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    Re: African American Heritage

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    You really are trolling for a bad response simply so you can say - "See I told ya so!" Useless and racist in its basic premise while showing great ignorance of your nation's history.

    If you have ever had a blood transfusion, you must give credit to a black man. I'll let you do the Google
    Since you're a socialist, I pity you for not understanding the difference between culture and ethnicity.

    Here's a hint - who you are is defined beyond what you are. Historical materialism isn't the end all to be all.

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    Re: African American Heritage

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    Since you're a socialist, I pity you for not understanding the difference between culture and ethnicity.

    Here's a hint - who you are is defined beyond what you are. Historical materialism isn't the end all to be all.

    More failure to actually defend one's starting premise. How do one's political and economic views cause misunderstanding of sociological questions? You know so little of the world you must lay the same lack of knowledge upon others - shame that.
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    Re: African American Heritage

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    This thread is a perfect example of why you should not get your talking points from Stormfront: because you will get ****ing stupid talking points.

    MLK day: not about being black, but about celebrating one of the great Americans of the last 50 years. When are you so fixated on race? Is presidents day a white holiday? Your logic suggests it would be.


    Black History Month: Maybe you missed it, but the history taught in most schools is very Eurocentric. There is no harm is looking at history of other areas, and I would similarly like an Asian history month.

    Kwanzaa: Really? Not even a national holiday, and I do not know one black person who actually celebrates it, and you want to make a big deal about it? Do you get pissed off about Saint Patrick's day too? Cinco De Mayo? Yesterday was Tanabata. Did you get worked up about it?

    Race baiting, poorly constructed, and with a complete lack of thinking involved, this is a major failure of a poll.
    No votes and I hope it stays that way...
    Even obtuse I was suspicious of this thread and its reason for being..

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