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  • Yes, blacks have their own heritage.

    13 81.25%
  • Yes, blacks can create something else.

    1 6.25%
  • No, blacks lack heritage.

    0 0%
  • No, black identity politics depend on government.

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Thread: African American Heritage

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    Re: African American Heritage

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    Not really sure what the above has to do with my post, but my earlier criticism was limited to black history month, and the penchant to hike out minor historical figures, as "filler" for the holiday
    I'm sorry. Got a little knee jerk reactive. I've discussed the general black culture issue elsewhere and in a broader context most of the time I hear people expressing the view that there shouldn't be any acknowledgement of America's black culture and especially history with a mindset that doing so is racist. Of course, it's rediculous IMHO but I do find a lot of decent people with that position who I think just need to see the double standard. Oddly people with that view think that by ignoring and encouraging others to ignore ethnicity (when it comes to blacks), with the best of intentions, they're fighting racism.

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    Re: African American Heritage

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Freed the southern slaves, but gave them nothing else.
    Far more than the guy in your display pic.
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    Re: African American Heritage

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    You couldn't think of Boston?
    Pretty much any North Eastern state can be claimed for its Irish American history. NY and Jersey both have a **** ton of Irish.
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    Re: African American Heritage

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Pretty much any North Eastern state can be claimed for its Irish American history. NY and Jersey both have a **** ton of Irish.
    Chicago's Irish as hell too. San Fran has a pretty large Irish community, too (due in part to the railroads).
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    Re: African American Heritage

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    No, I'm saying that the American way of teaching history doesn't teach about African Americans and the impact we've had.
    Of course not.Black history is relegated to a month instead of integrated with the rest of American history. This reenforces the idea that black history is only important to black Americans or that blacks made no contributions to the country other than to black people instead of contributions to the country as a whole.

    Actually, our "history" classes are white washed versions where we learn that George Washington was a really good guy who wanted freedom for all Americans and ra-ra-rah with a 6 pack and a shotgun.
    Personally I care more about their contributions to this country than the negative stuff that they may have done in their person lives.History classes don't need commentary on how someone was a evil slave owner, a communist, a womanizer or some other negative thing.



    we'd have less right wingers spewing stupid **** like "Hey! You can always go back to Africa!"
    Its racist that utter than crap regardless if they are liberal or conservative.

    No.
    So if the US would have went to war with the south anyways even if the south banned slavery then this would mean that the civil war was not mostly about slavery. Did I misunderstand what you wrote?
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    Re: African American Heritage

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    not really, just don't feel like walking you through the blatantly obvious and already explained
    Your inability to do so is noted.
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    Re: African American Heritage

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Pretty much any North Eastern state can be claimed for its Irish American history. NY and Jersey both have a **** ton of Irish.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Chicago's Irish as hell too. San Fran has a pretty large Irish community, too (due in part to the railroads).
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    Re: African American Heritage

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Serendipity... Definitely NSFW!

    That was hilarious
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    Re: African American Heritage

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    I'm sorry. Got a little knee jerk reactive. I've discussed the general black culture issue elsewhere and in a broader context most of the time I hear people expressing the view that there shouldn't be any acknowledgement of America's black culture and especially history with a mindset that doing so is racist. Of course, it's rediculous IMHO but I do find a lot of decent people with that position who I think just need to see the double standard. Oddly people with that view think that by ignoring and encouraging others to ignore ethnicity (when it comes to blacks), with the best of intentions, they're fighting racism.
    No worries. It's, unfortunately, one of those topics that seem to make everyone hot headed. The problem is that such is hardly conductive to finding solutions to many of the race issues in america

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    Re: African American Heritage

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Your inability to do so is noted.
    to adequately reexplain my argument while you feign ignorance of the obvious? thank you for noting that, but it's more based on a lack of interest. I figure anyone reading this thread can make up their own mind, as opposed to rehashing the thing 30-40 times, as you make nonsensical objections.

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