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Mandatory Organ Donation

After death do you think it should be mandated that organs are used to save lives?

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I'm listed as a donor. I've also donated samples to the marrow registry so that I can be considered for those in need of such. But it should always be my choice to do so. I refuse to disrespect or shame somebody who isn't willing to donate, because it's a weighty decision.

I also fear that mandatory organ donation might lessen life saving efforts bestowed upon those in need of urgent and extreme medical care because it might be cheaper or more "beneficial to society" if they go ahead and harvest organs than perform those extreme life saving measures. Unless some clause is included that maintains the right of the NOK to make medical decisions indefinitely in absence of a DNR, I couldn't get behind any sort of mandatory law. Too likely to see abuse, I fear.
 
Lokiate said:
Appeal to emotion means nothing to me. Demanding that I allow my dead to be hacked up and used for spare parts for ones personal benefit is hardly mild rudeness.
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This is exactly what I was talking about. Loki has a strong belief for not wanting to be an organ donor. I believe he is wrong to feel that way. But simply because I have a different opinion than Loki does not mean that, if I can get a majority of people to agree with me, we should force Loki to do something against his beliefs. No matter how sure I am that I am correct (and I'm pretty sure on this one... I could debate endlessly why someone should be an organ donor).
 
fredmertzz said:
This is exactly what I was talking about. Loki has a strong belief for not wanting to be an organ donor.
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I have nothing against being an organ donor, but if it's against my loved ones wishes, it's not going to happen. I can't be a donor for medical reasons, though I was a registered donor before certain things came to my attention. What's really pissing me off is the tone some are taking. When somebody's wife, or mother dies, you don't just walk in with a scalpel and a cooler to divvy up the tender biddles before the body even has a chance to cool, and you definitely don't take the prickish tone that some are espousing here, implying moral corruption, selfishness, or just outright calling someone an asshole. I'm sorry that I care about certain people enough to where I'm not going to just have them tossed onto a butchers block due to others thinking I'm a selfish asshole for wanting at least one ****ing second to grieve and say goodbye. A tiny bit of common courtesy and civility goes a very long way.
 
I'm with the majority on this. No mandatory organ donation. Several cultures in this country believe that unless a body is buried whole, the soul cannot be received into heaven. Organ donation and even autopsy is against some religions, and other religions must bury the body within 24 hours of death.

I'm not a religious person, and I personally would allow my organs to be donated, presuming any of them still work. However, the government has no right to swoop in and ravage a person's corpse against the family's will and use it for whatever purpose it sees fit. What's next? Harvest the bones and grind them up for fertilizer or cattle feed? Put the flesh into a compost pile to add nutrients to the soil?

Giving the government rights over the disposition of the dead is an absolutely horrific and ludicrous idea.
 
Wake said:
Have you ever watched your uncle wither away and die over the course of five years, never to receive the pair of lungs he was waiting for?

I view humans as the animal-monkey homo sapien. We're typically hairless monkeys suspended in a rock in space. Unlike other animals we have heightened intelligence. Like ants and other creatures we crave order, efficiency, survival.

Once we die our right to our organs should die as well. How many people have to suffer and wait for organs that they may not ever receive? If you failed the birth lottery and are poor, chances are you won't be able to shunt money towards getting an organ faster.

No, you have no right to your organs when you die. Your organs will be used to save the lives of others desperately in need. Our country would be a much better place if we didn't waste the perfectly useable organs of the deceased. Think about it. How many people would you say are waiting for a new heart, lung, liver, etc? What if you found yourself waiting? Waiting. Waiting. Deteriorating. Hoping. Dying.

No more. Do away with voluntary donations. Make it mandatory for the benefit of all. What, you think you need your rotting organ after you're dead? No, you most certainly don't. It could be better put towards saving the life of another human being. It would take some strain off of our healthcare system if we had ready access to life-saving organs/tissue/whatever.

I think this is what's best for America.
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This issue will soon be moot. It wont be long before organs will be grown when needed.

Growing Organs in the Lab | Singularity Hub


and a more recent article

Growing Body Parts in the Lab Becomes Reality - Health News - redOrbit

As an answer to the OP I am against mandatory organ donation. I do not trust government nor the doctors who would otherwise need my organs to do the "right thing".
 
While it be good and would help out theres no way you can make this mandatory in this country. Thats absurd to force this on people and families.

Now if we are ever in a endangered scenario maybe Id change my mind but thats not the case and in this country something like this should never happen.
 
Wake said:
Have you ever watched your uncle wither away and die over the course of five years, never to receive the pair of lungs he was waiting for?

I view humans as the animal-monkey homo sapien. We're typically hairless monkeys suspended in a rock in space. Unlike other animals we have heightened intelligence. Like ants and other creatures we crave order, efficiency, survival.

Once we die our right to our organs should die as well. How many people have to suffer and wait for organs that they may not ever receive? If you failed the birth lottery and are poor, chances are you won't be able to shunt money towards getting an organ faster.

No, you have no right to your organs when you die. Your organs will be used to save the lives of others desperately in need. Our country would be a much better place if we didn't waste the perfectly useable organs of the deceased. Think about it. How many people would you say are waiting for a new heart, lung, liver, etc? What if you found yourself waiting? Waiting. Waiting. Deteriorating. Hoping. Dying.

No more. Do away with voluntary donations. Make it mandatory for the benefit of all. What, you think you need your rotting organ after you're dead? No, you most certainly don't. It could be better put towards saving the life of another human being. It would take some strain off of our healthcare system if we had ready access to life-saving organs/tissue/whatever.

I think this is what's best for America.
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and What's next? Government confiscates your accumulated fortune instead of a person being able to pass it on to their heirs?


oh wait....bastards.
 
Phoenix said:
and What's next? Government confiscates your accumulated fortune instead of a person being able to pass it on to their heirs?


oh wait....bastards.
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Apples and oranges.
 
Wake said:
Apples and oranges.
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Not apples and oranges, same thing acutually. My job and the job of my familiy is NOT to HELP YOU. Just because YOU think it BEST doesnt mean I think it best. My body is my property even when I am dead. If you take someones parts without their permission, that is theft, just like if you stole someones car or savings, and makes you nothing more than a thief. I dont know about your familiy but I know mine, theft aint tolerated at all.
 
PirateMk1 said:
Not apples and oranges, same thing acutually. My job and the job of my familiy is NOT to HELP YOU. Just because YOU think it BEST doesnt mean I think it best. My body is my property even when I am dead. If you take someones parts without their permission, that is theft, just like if you stole someones car or savings, and makes you nothing more than a thief. I dont know about your familiy but I know mine, theft aint tolerated at all.
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No, it's apples and oranges imo.

Do you still own your home and your car when you die, too? No, you don't. Do you still own your job and your clothes? No, you don't. Money and property are a bit different from organs in a dead corpse. You no longer own your property or your money when you die, so while you're alive you write on a piece of paper, I believe it's called a "will," and you make plans to have ownership shift elsewhere. If you die without making any mention of your organs I believe your rights no longer apply, because you haven't made anything clear through a will while living. The good outweighs the bad because it's morally wrong how the rich get better access to life-saving organs while the poor and uninfluential suffer and die, their hopes crushed. You can be cold and wicked with your selfish want to have your life-saving organs rot while kids and adults die, but hopefully one day people with that mindset will be in the majority. The greater good for the survival of homo sapien demands we not waste the items that can save the rest of us. A dead human has no needs of his/her organs. A young girl with a failing liver and her potentially full life ahead of her does.
 
Wake said:
A dead human has no needs of his/her organs. A young girl with a failing liver and her potentially full life ahead of her does.
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And following the same line of reasoning, a dead person has no need of their accumulated property. Granny Smith's and Red Delicious...
 
Lokiate said:
And following the same line of reasoning, a dead person has no need of their accumulated property. Granny Smith's and Red Delicious...
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A dead person has no need for their accumlated property because they're dead. That's why wills exist so while living you make the future transfer official.
 
Wake said:
Have you ever watched your uncle wither away and die over the course of five years, never to receive the pair of lungs he was waiting for?

I view humans as the animal-monkey homo sapien. We're typically hairless monkeys suspended in a rock in space. Unlike other animals we have heightened intelligence. Like ants and other creatures we crave order, efficiency, survival.

Once we die our right to our organs should die as well. How many people have to suffer and wait for organs that they may not ever receive? If you failed the birth lottery and are poor, chances are you won't be able to shunt money towards getting an organ faster.

No, you have no right to your organs when you die. Your organs will be used to save the lives of others desperately in need. Our country would be a much better place if we didn't waste the perfectly useable organs of the deceased. Think about it. How many people would you say are waiting for a new heart, lung, liver, etc? What if you found yourself waiting? Waiting. Waiting. Deteriorating. Hoping. Dying.

No more. Do away with voluntary donations. Make it mandatory for the benefit of all. What, you think you need your rotting organ after you're dead? No, you most certainly don't. It could be better put towards saving the life of another human being. It would take some strain off of our healthcare system if we had ready access to life-saving organs/tissue/whatever.

I think this is what's best for America.
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I will allow it IF we get rid of all seatbelt and helmet laws.
 
Wake said:
A dead person has no need for their accumlated property because they're dead. That's why wills exist so while living you make the future transfer official.
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And someone declaring they do not want to be a donor is just as binding, yet you have no problem looking beyond that.
 
I've got no problem with it (other than it should exempt brain and brain tissue). Also, there would need to be religious exemptions. So instead of carrying donor cards, some would carry do not donate cards. Be nice if as a payback they gave free burial or cremation for what's left over.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
That would certainly help a lot with the organ supply. ;-)
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Yeah. Let me ride my motorcycle without a helmet. If I **** up and get killed, help yourself to my organs. Consider it payment for having to hose my ass off the road.
 
Lokiate said:
And someone declaring they do not want to be a donor is just as binding, yet you have no problem looking beyond that.
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I could compromise on the default being mandatory organ donations, and give people who care the option to opt out free of charge. If people are ignorant enough or don't care enough to get off the list then that's their problem.

Mandatory for all would be nice, but it's likely we can count on the ignorant to acquire life-saving organs when they're dead.
 
Wake said:
I could compromise on the default being mandatory organ donations, and give people who care the option to opt out free of charge. If people are ignorant enough or don't care enough to get off the list then that's their problem.

Mandatory for all would be nice, but it's likely we can count on the ignorant to acquire life-saving organs when they're dead.
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The Need is Real — And You Can Help Fill It

While you were visiting TNNOD.org, it’s likely that at least one new name was added to the national transplant waiting list. Because unfortunately, in the U.S. a person is listed for transplant every 11 minutes. That’s 130 people joining the list every day.

And if that statistic isn’t heartbreaking enough, consider that while 75 people receive organ transplants each day on average, 19 people die each day waiting for transplants because of the shortage of available donor organs.

Organ transplantation has become an accepted medical treatment for end-stage organ failure. But only people like you — who are willing to make the generous, selfless decision to become organ donors — can help make life-saving transplants happen and prevent these needless deaths.

Organ Donation Network | The National Network of Organ Donors
 
I'll become an organ donor then.

I sure as hell don't need to selfishly keep my organs when I'm dead.
 
Wake said:
I'll become an organ donor then.

I sure as hell don't need to selfishly keep my organs when I'm dead.
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On behalf of people at transplant centers we all say thank you
 
Thunder said:
yes, make all-Americans default organ-donors.

if you want your body to have integrity when it becomes worm-food, you should have to select it and have it printed on your drivers license or state-issued ID.
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That's none of your business. You don't have a right to my body. Only communists would support mandatory organ donation.
 
American said:
(1) That's none of your business. (2) You don't have a right to my body. (3) Only communists would support mandatory organ donation.
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(1) And you have the right to an opinion.

(2) See #1, and that can change.

(3) Prove it.
 
Wake said:
Have you ever watched your uncle wither away and die over the course of five years, never to receive the pair of lungs he was waiting for?

I view humans as the animal-monkey homo sapien. We're typically hairless monkeys suspended in a rock in space. Unlike other animals we have heightened intelligence. Like ants and other creatures we crave order, efficiency, survival.

Once we die our right to our organs should die as well. How many people have to suffer and wait for organs that they may not ever receive? If you failed the birth lottery and are poor, chances are you won't be able to shunt money towards getting an organ faster.

No, you have no right to your organs when you die. Your organs will be used to save the lives of others desperately in need. Our country would be a much better place if we didn't waste the perfectly useable organs of the deceased. Think about it. How many people would you say are waiting for a new heart, lung, liver, etc? What if you found yourself waiting? Waiting. Waiting. Deteriorating. Hoping. Dying.

No more. Do away with voluntary donations. Make it mandatory for the benefit of all. What, you think you need your rotting organ after you're dead? No, you most certainly don't. It could be better put towards saving the life of another human being. It would take some strain off of our healthcare system if we had ready access to life-saving organs/tissue/whatever.

I think this is what's best for America.
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I can see your point. However, when we (as a nation) begin to peck away at individual liberties to benefit the collective whole, we cease to be a nation of individuals and instead become a collective- begging at the heels of our government to provide for us.

The most sacred, personal, and sensible "right" that an American has is the right to his physical body. The theory that "because someone else needs it, therefore I should be mandated to provide it" is NOT constitutional, it is not "American," it is not patriotic, it is not in keeping with the heritage we claim to be so proud of as a nation. Because we are, as you stated, an intelligent lifeform, we should learn from our successes as well as from our mistakes.

What I have does not belong to you. You have no claim to it unless I offer it to you. It belongs to me. There are things that are ABSOLUTELY mine. The next logical step, according to your theory, would be to take kidneys from living people because they only require one. This is not a far cry from what you propose. Society evolves in graduated steps. These are not steps I wish to take, and according to the poll, it would appear that a bipartisan majority would oppose it.
 
American said:
That's none of your business. You don't have a right to my body. Only communists would support mandatory organ donation.
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THE NEED IS REAL

114,813 people are waiting for an organ
18 people will die each day waiting for an organ
1 organ donor can save up to 8 lives


The Gap Continues to Widen
Right now, there are more than enough people waiting for an organ to fill a large football stadium twice over.

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organdonor.gov | The Need Is Real: Data
 
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