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    Re: Mandatory Organ Donation

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I would support a system of "presumed consent" for organ donations. Basically, unless you made it explicitly clear prior to your death that you did NOT want anyone to take your organs - or if your family raised a big stink about it after your death - any and all usable organs would be taken. That would still protect people's religious freedoms, but the "opt-in" system doesn't produce enough results due to inertia...most people never get around to signing up to being an organ donor.
    Huh, so what qualify as a big enough stink such that the family's wishes would be honored?

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    Re: Mandatory Organ Donation

    It's each person's body and they have a right to dispose of it as they wish. I'm an organ donor, though it does freak out my kids, they know not to thwart my wishes. One of them has not checked the donor box on their driver's license. I won't thwart them if it came down to it. Those are their wishes and I have no right to interfere.
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    Re: Mandatory Organ Donation

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    This. I remember reading somewhere about organs going to waste because they had no idea whether the deceased wanted to donate or not.
    That happens alot...a young person rushed to ER cant be saved...they try and locate relatives to release very much needed organs for other young people and they go over the allowable time limit and the idea has to be scrapped

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    Re: Mandatory Organ Donation

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    It's each person's body and they have a right to dispose of it as they wish. I'm an organ donor, though it does freak out my kids, they know not to thwart my wishes. One of them has not checked the donor box on their driver's license. I won't thwart them if it came down to it. Those are their wishes and I have no right to interfere.
    Gina theres no doubt it should be an individuals decision and not a govt mandate...Maybe they could word it differently or ask differently or maybe get some awareness how much organs are needed to save others as they do whining about BIG SODA being sold...I think if we put as much effort into explaining the need for organ donors as we do trying to legalize weed...we would have lots more donors

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    Re: Mandatory Organ Donation

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Gina theres no doubt it should be an individuals decision and not a govt mandate...Maybe they could word it differently or ask differently or maybe get some awareness how much organs are needed to save others as they do whining about BIG SODA being sold...I think if we put as much effort into explaining the need for organ donors as we do trying to legalize weed...we would have lots more donors
    I can agree with that lpast. There are many misconceptions about organ donation. Educating the public, could be of great benefit. Everything I know about it, I discovered for myself. Explaining and easing anxieties over donating, could yield greater participation. I mean really, having the woman or guy at the DMV be the primary point of contact for all possible donors, is pretty lame. No offense to those who work at the DMV, it's just not really their job to make explanations.
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    Re: Mandatory Organ Donation

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    I can agree with that lpast. There are many misconceptions about organ donation. Educating the public, could be of great benefit. Everything I know about it, I discovered for myself. Explaining and easing anxieties over donating, could yield greater participation. I mean really, having the woman or guy at the DMV be the primary point of contact for all possible donors, is pretty lame. No offense to those who work at the DMV, it's just not really their job to make explanations.
    Losing a loved one is HORRIFIC especially suddenly and at a young age...to me if that HAD to happen to me with one of my own, I would be proud and happy to have a part of them save another young person and give them life....I as person with a loss have only to gain from that...not lose anything more.

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    Re: Mandatory Organ Donation

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Have you ever watched your uncle wither away and die over the course of five years, never to receive the pair of lungs he was waiting for?

    I view humans as the animal-monkey homo sapien. We're typically hairless monkeys suspended in a rock in space. Unlike other animals we have heightened intelligence. Like ants and other creatures we crave order, efficiency, survival.

    Once we die our right to our organs should die as well. How many people have to suffer and wait for organs that they may not ever receive? If you failed the birth lottery and are poor, chances are you won't be able to shunt money towards getting an organ faster.

    No, you have no right to your organs when you die. Your organs will be used to save the lives of others desperately in need. Our country would be a much better place if we didn't waste the perfectly useable organs of the deceased. Think about it. How many people would you say are waiting for a new heart, lung, liver, etc? What if you found yourself waiting? Waiting. Waiting. Deteriorating. Hoping. Dying.

    No more. Do away with voluntary donations. Make it mandatory for the benefit of all. What, you think you need your rotting organ after you're dead? No, you most certainly don't. It could be better put towards saving the life of another human being. It would take some strain off of our healthcare system if we had ready access to life-saving organs/tissue/whatever.

    I think this is what's best for America.
    The problem with body harvesting is that it enables the black market. We can't allow people to sell body parts because folks have been before, still are in a reduced capacity under a ban, and would be again killed so that their parts could be sold.

    Likewise, mandating organ donation will increase the number of preventable deaths.

    In stead, we should offer some kind of tax incentive for being a voluntary donor.

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    Re: Mandatory Organ Donation

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    The problem with body harvesting is that it enables the black market. We can't allow people to sell body parts because folks have been before, still are in a reduced capacity under a ban, and would be again killed so that their parts could be sold.

    Likewise, mandating organ donation will increase the number of preventable deaths.

    In stead, we should offer some kind of tax incentive for being a voluntary donor.

    your right there...and theres some of that goes on full time around the world....it has to be kept voluntary but we need more awareness...its a win win as I view it...obviously not everyone else feels the same

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    Re: Mandatory Organ Donation

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Losing a loved one is HORRIFIC especially suddenly and at a young age...to me if that HAD to happen to me with one of my own, I would be proud and happy to have a part of them save another young person and give them life....I as person with a loss have only to gain from that...not lose anything more.
    Beautifully stated lpast. Would that more people could find that generosity in their hearts, choosing to make something good come from a tragedy.
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    Re: Mandatory Organ Donation

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Huh, so what qualify as a big enough stink such that the family's wishes would be honored?
    Maybe they go to the trouble to sign a document saying that they don't want the deceased person's organs to be taken, and deliver it to the hospital or morgue. Something like that. Something that's enough of an inconvenience that most people won't bother, but not so much of an inconvenience that the family's wishes aren't respected.

    Part of the problem with our current system is that most people are simply lazy. Most people would have no issue with being an organ donor, but far less are actually registered to be an organ donor. An "opt-out" system makes more sense than an "opt-in" system IMO. There are too many people desperately in need of organs for us to just bury people with perfectly good organs when they weren't even opposed to donating them.
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