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Thread: Mandatory Organ Donation

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    Re: Mandatory Organ Donation

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    You're very right. Something like a payment to your estate if you sign up. No fortune, maybe $1000-$3000 IF your organs are used. This cost could be billed to the insurer who covers the recipient, it would encourage people to sign up and it will help the family of the donor.
    Absolutely, that's the direction I'm thinking. Depending on what was used, your final medical bill can be a bit smaller.

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    Re: Mandatory Organ Donation

    My body is MY property. Even when I am dead. Just like all of my assets. YOU do not get dibs on my body or my assets unless I say you do. I assure you my familiy WILL ENFORCE that by WHATEVER means nessicerry legal or otherwise. As I will with their remains and assets. My body is mine to do with as I wish. If I want to SELL its parts thats MY business and none of yours. If I want GIVE my parts away that too, is MY business and none of yours. Personally I have no problem if someone wants to sell or give their parts off even if they are still alive, but it MUST be their choice. As far the black market goes, it already exists, all selling of organs by legitimate soarces will do is lower how lucritive the black market is. People should not need permission to sell their parts. Its THEIR parts to do with as they see fit. If they sell their parts when they die then they can pass that money on to someone in their family or to whomever else they choose. Its no different than the doctors or hospitals charging for their services to perform the transplants in the first place. Why shouldnt the deceased or the living for that matter get a cut? A large cut at that since they have the needed commodity in the first place. I think a standard contract and rate for various parts be developed so that the people dont get themselves screwed when making the deals. Hell the hospitals harvesting the organs can act the sales reps and put them out to auction, to highest bidder and receive a percentage of the take say ten percent, with the recipient(s) of the organ(s) paying for the harvisting costs.
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    Re: Mandatory Organ Donation

    I like the idea of making it opt out rather than opt in but in the end it doesnít matter what is on your driverís license. Regardless of what is checked, the hospital is going to follow the wishes of the next of kin so make sure they know your wishes.

    That said, if you are not an organ donor you are an asshole.

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    Re: Mandatory Organ Donation

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcogito View Post
    That said, if you are not an organ donor you are an asshole.
    Some have legit reasons for not being organ donors.
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    Re: Mandatory Organ Donation

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Well wait a second. "Have no reason to believe it's a "problem". What does that mean? What if a parent says upon notification that their kid's in the hospital that they don't wish their child to be carved up. Is that reason enough, or should the family of child just know to always have this document on hand, just in case?
    That's fine, my point was that it should be presumed consent unless either the person has specifically opted out ahead of time, or if the family manages to notify the hospital before they do it. If the family is able to communicate their wishes to the hospital before they take the organs, fine. If they aren't able to communicate those wishes, then too bad; they should've planned for this possibility ahead of time by opting out.

    What if the injured kid is an 8 year old child? Should the parents have a say then?
    Of course. But I don't think that the organs of injured people are normally harvested anyway; the trauma would most likely make the organs useless.

    How about if the child is on life support but not likely to make it, should the family have any say in when or whether to take them off, or should that be dictated by when it would be best to do so in order to harvest organs?
    Of course they should be able to take them off or not take them off life support; what does this have to do with the topic at hand?

    Now, should ER staff notify the families (in those case where they might still have a choice) that they have a right to opt out and they need to opt out if they wish to, or would it just be better to keep that quiet. After all, if you let them know they have an option, they might just take it.
    I've never worked in an ER so I don't know their protocol, but I believe that they normally contact the family as soon as they can.
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    Re: Mandatory Organ Donation

    Quote Originally Posted by Lokiate View Post
    I'm right there with you. People feel entitled to everything these days. My body, the body of my loved ones, that goes too far. If you ask because you need, I'll do what I can. If you shout and demand that it's magically your right to strip and harvest the corpse of my loved one:

    So in other words, you're willing to let people die because some third party was mildly rude to you.
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    Re: Mandatory Organ Donation

    I'd love if everyone were organ donors! But we have to try to look at this from a legal standpoint. I agree that 'I' don't exist to have ownership of 'my' organs, once I am dead. I would think my family inherits my body, though, as a default, no? It was one of my possessions in life; it should be passed along just the same.

    I think there needs to be a change in society rather than a change in law. If we have law forcing changes in people's belief systems for them, it just continues to build resentment against the state. We should instead be shocked and appalled when organs are not donated! And do what we can to change the opinion of society. I.E. as others have suggested, default everyone to be organ donors unless you opt-out.

    Per donatelife.org, only 26 states offer organ donation on their driver's license application; only 38.2% of the population are organ donors. I agree there is obviously something wrong if 61.8% of our population aren't donating organs. But I think there would be something more wrong with mandating that 61.8% to be organ donors, or their deceased family be organ donors, if that's not already part of their belief system.

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    Re: Mandatory Organ Donation

    I have CM stamped on my License. The C is for car and the M is for motorcycle. There's a cute red heart in the lower right hand corner that has 'DONOR' written across the front.

    I believe in the opt-in program. I do like Jerry's idea of a donor tax break. That would create some PR for the cause.

    If you don't want to donate your organs, for whatever reason, I'm down with that too.

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    Re: Mandatory Organ Donation

    If it's a choice at all, people shouldn't have to "opt-out"... of anything.

    If you want me to do it, convince me why I should.
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    Re: Mandatory Organ Donation

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    So in other words, you're willing to let people die because some third party was mildly rude to you.
    Appeal to emotion means nothing to me. Demanding that I allow my dead to be hacked up and used for spare parts for ones personal benefit is hardly mild rudeness.
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