View Poll Results: What type of "Democracy" does the USA support?

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  • CIA inspired "business as usual" takeovers.

    3 42.86%
  • Free and Fair elections.

    1 14.29%
  • Only "School of the Americas" graduates as leaders.

    1 14.29%
  • If it's good for business, it's the USA's huckleberry.

    2 28.57%
  • "Banana Republic" plantation politics, old money rules.

    3 42.86%
  • Making good environments for Corporate business.

    4 57.14%
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Thread: What's going on South of our Border?

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    Re: What's going on South of our Border?

    From how it appears their party is more authoritative, whether that be good or bad. They do seem to have a history of better controlling the drug cartels though. From my view, I don't care if the Mexican government is authoritative, communist, socialist, capitalist or libertarian. What matters to me is that they make Mexico a better place based on the will of the citizens and control illegal immigration and the drug cartels on their side of the border. It seems like the elected party has a better track record of controlling the drug cartels.
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    Re: What's going on South of our Border?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    New World Order is pretty much standard double speak for antisemites.
    Not in any world I know of or live in.

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    Re: What's going on South of our Border?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    New World Order is pretty much standard double speak for antisemites.
    Since when?
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    Re: What's going on South of our Border?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    From how it appears their party is more authoritative, whether that be good or bad. They do seem to have a history of better controlling the drug cartels though. From my view, I don't care if the Mexican government is authoritative, communist, socialist, capitalist or libertarian. What matters to me is that they make Mexico a better place based on the will of the citizens and control illegal immigration and the drug cartels on their side of the border. It seems like the elected party has a better track record of controlling the drug cartels.
    Spoken like somebody who's never been outside of a Mexican resort or knows ANYTHING about the PRI. They held a 77 year dictatorship that came hand in hand with being friendly to cartels.
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    Re: What's going on South of our Border?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sig View Post
    Since when?
    Antisemitism in the anti-globalization movement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Take Adbusters magazine’s founder Kalle Lasn’s recent editorial rant against Jewish neoconservatives....The article includes a self-selected ‘well-researched list’ of 50 of the supposedly most influential ‘neocons’ with little black dots next to all those who are Jewish....If it’s not the neocons then it’s the all-powerful ‘Jewish lobby’ which holds governments to ransom all over the world (because Jews control the global economy of course) to do their bidding. Meanwhile rightwing Judeophobes often talk of a leftist Jewish conspiracy to promote equality and human rights through a new internationalism embodied in the UN in order to control governments and suppress national sovereignty. They call it the ‘New World Order’ or the ‘Jew World Order’. They make similar lists to Lasn’s of prominent Jews in the global justice movement (Noam Chomsky, Naomi Klein, etc) to argue their case."[23]
    List of conspiracy theories - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    In the second half of the 19th century conspiracists claimed that Jews and/or Freemasons were plotting to establish control over the world. The most famous text alleging the existence of this Judeo-Masonic conspiracy theory is The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. A more modern manifestation of such ideas is the myth of a Zionist Occupation Government.
    Various conspiracy theories have been advanced regarding Jews and banking,[32] including the myth that world banking is dominated by the Rothschild family,[33] that Jews control Wall Street,[33] and that Jews control the U.S. Federal Reserve System.[34] A related canard is that Jews control Hollywood or the news media.[35]
    Most Holocaust denial claims imply, or openly state, that the Holocaust is a hoax arising out of a deliberate Jewish conspiracy to advance the interest of Jews at the expense of other peoples.[36] For this reason, Holocaust denial is generally considered to be an antisemitic[37] conspiracy theory.[38]
    You're more than welcome to do research on it. It's pretty well known that whenever people start talking about "New World Order" it's simply doublespeak for "Zee Jooz".
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    Re: What's going on South of our Border?

    It's not when I say it. I see Corporate power being enhanced in concert with that new Supreme Court ruling that says Corporations are people. Their argument is that they are the job creators, so they are the caretakers of the people. Many people believe that. There are a few good corporations, but they are the exception, not the rule. We have established a system for "survival of the biggest," and the biggest work against the people. Why do you think we are fighting wars for oil and Corporate assets, whether that is land, resources, or labor or just protecting your current no bid contracts with the military. Latin America is land and labor. Iraq, Libya, is about OIL. Do Iran, Venezuela, Cuba, etc. I translate New World Order as having big business run the world and keep mouthing that ignorant platitude that it is for our benefit. I do acknowledge the Jews may have undue world influence because they are smarter than other races/ethnicities. I don't see that as anti semitic.

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    Re: What's going on South of our Border?

    Quote Originally Posted by RGacky3 View Post
    This is nothing new, the US has supported dictatorships in South America and coups for decades. Any times a government tries to focus on their own people's interest rather than multinational corporations the US is more than happy to allow coups and dictatorships.

    Since when has the US government cared about democracy???

    profits come first.
    I guess I missed the part of the US Constitution where it says we are required to support democracies in Latin America.

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    Re: What's going on South of our Border?

    Quote Originally Posted by johnny_rebson View Post
    I guess I missed the part of the US Constitution where it says we are required to support democracies in Latin America.
    Let's talk reality. Most Americans don't know crap about the Constitution, but they all can recite the Pledge of Allegiance with conviction. Do the words "liberty and justice for all" mean anything to you?

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    Re: What's going on South of our Border?

    You can dive into our history of overthrowing Democratically elected government.

    1953- Overthrew the Iranian government and installed the Shah who was a known brutal dictator and eventually led to the Islamic Revolution and Iran-Contra.

    1973- General Augusto Pinochet- Chile

    1976- General Jorge Rafael Videla- Argentina

    1965- Suharto- Indonesia

    1954- Armas, Fuentes, Montt- Guatemala

    1978- Sadat Mubarak- Egypt

    1980s- Saddam Hussein - Iraq

    1937- Anastasio Somoza & sons- Nicaragua

    1954- Stroessner- Paraguay

    1970- Col. Hugo Banzer- Bolivia

    There are many more to be named that we either installed or supported. We do not spread Democracy...we spread our interests. Do let the two confuse you.
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    Re: What's going on South of our Border?

    South of our border the democratrs and republicans are accusing each other of every evil ever concieved, on this side of the border I'm just drinking and enjoying the friday evening.
    sorry not advancing the discussion much but dang this is good wine!
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