View Poll Results: Is access to health care a privilege, right or responsibility?

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Thread: Health Care; Privlege, Right or Responsibility?

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    Re: Health Care; Privlege, Right or Responsibility?

    Health care is not any of the above. It defies rights privileges and much more. It is life and death and morbidity

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    Re: Health Care; Privlege, Right or Responsibility?

    Can I ask at what point during the debate did people without insurance become the bad guys? I seem to remember during the initial debate that they were the victims. Also, if the main concern has shifted to keeping "free riders" from mooching off the system when they get sick, why should people who have enough money to pay for medical care without insurance, now have to buy it?

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    Re: Health Care; Privlege, Right or Responsibility?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Can I ask at what point during the debate did people without insurance become the bad guys? I seem to remember during the initial debate that they were the victims. Also, if the main concern has shifted to keeping "free riders" from mooching off the system when they get sick, why should people who have enough money to pay for medical care without insurance, now have to buy it?
    I don't know. My question is simply since when does anyone have a right to anothers labor? If they want to fix the medical system, I think a great way to do it would be to abolish the insurance system altogether. Due pay for due services like anything else.
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    Re: Health Care; Privlege, Right or Responsibility?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lokiate View Post
    I don't know. My question is simply since when does anyone have a right to anothers labor? If they want to fix the medical system, I think a great way to do it would be to abolish the insurance system altogether. Due pay for due services like anything else.
    Only the rich that can afford a heart bypass get one? That is not what you are suggesting is it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lokiate View Post
    I don't know. My question is simply since when does anyone have a right to anothers labor? If they want to fix the medical system, I think a great way to do it would be to abolish the insurance system altogether. Due pay for due services like anything else.

    How would you change the price structure of a heart transplant of which there is only about 2500 a year and cost about a million dollars plus 2 to 3 k per month there after for a life time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Only the rich that can afford a heart bypass get one? That is not what you are suggesting is it?
    Part of the reasons why health care costs are so high is the insurance system. The whole damned thing is a scam.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lokiate View Post
    Part of the reasons why health care costs are so high is the insurance system. The whole damned thing is a scam.

    The reason we can do kidney transplants (the most common transplant) to heart transplants is because of the insurance system. And we have great people living from these things.

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    Re: Health Care; Privlege, Right or Responsibility?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    And expecting the government to back your money up is what?
    Back my money up? I think I know what your saying, but I want a little more clarification beforen I respond.

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    Re: Health Care; Privlege, Right or Responsibility?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lokiate View Post
    Part of the reasons why health care costs are so high is the insurance system. The whole damned thing is a scam.
    I agree our private insurance system as set up is part of the reason our health care costs are so high, but what are you going to replace the insurance system with? You didn't answer my questions above -

    "Only the rich that can afford a heart bypass get one? That is not what you are suggesting is it?"
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    Re: Health Care; Privlege, Right or Responsibility?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    The reason we can do kidney transplants (the most common transplant) to heart transplants is because of the insurance system. And we have great people living from these things.
    It's also part of the reason why a transplant costs a million+ dollars. The emphasis should not be on facilitating a system that drives costs up and places a ridiculous amount of stress on hospitals, but finding a way to bring medical costs down as low as possible.
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