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Thread: Health Care; Privlege, Right or Responsibility?

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    Re: Health Care; Privlege, Right or Responsibility?

    During the 1800s - a privledge, a man was lucky, back then, to have anything.
    Today - its available for nearly all...even the native Americans may have clinics in many cases..
    IMO, health care is no longer a privledge.
    But is it a right ?
    I think not...define right....
    A responsibiliy - yes! to one's self and one's family...
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    Re: Health Care; Privlege, Right or Responsibility?

    Good question. It gets to the theoretical foundations at the heart of a lot arguments happening now.

    It depends on the standard you're judging it against. When I judge it against the state of the entire world currently and the state of humanity in history, I think of healthcare as a privilege. When I judge it against my standard for what should be made a "human right," then I think of healthcare as a right. When I judge it against what I think the duties of government are, then I think of it as a responsibility.

    In short, it's all three things to me depending on where I'm looking at it. It's a right that governments have the responsibility to provide for their citizens and it's a privilege to be in a country where it's possible to live up that responsibility.

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    Re: Health Care; Privlege, Right or Responsibility?

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    Health care has to be supplied, not just demanded.

    If I'm hanging off the edge of a cliff, why are you obligated to save me?
    Because you're part of the society that makes my life possible. My life in which I have safe water, access to education, and limitless potential so far as I am willing and desirous to pursue it. That's why.

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    Re: Health Care; Privlege, Right or Responsibility?

    I dont know how to characterize it or put what label on it....I guess the best way to explain how I feel, is that it is a necessity that everyone should have access too...there can and should be degree's. The rich can have the super cadillac and a step down would be superior and then standard and basic + which covers everything a family that cant afford to pay on their own would need to stay healthy
    To me to have 30-40 million americans with no health care is just wrong...I look at the picture of my grandkids and say how would I feel if they had no health care and I didnt have the means to provide it....its a tough thing..I know.

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    Re: Health Care; Privlege, Right or Responsibility?

    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyBurns View Post
    What do you mean responsibility for access to healthcare?
    By that I mean the person is responsible for providing for their own health care needs.

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    Re: Health Care; Privlege, Right or Responsibility?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    By that I mean the person is responsible for providing for their own health care needs.
    Exactly. They need to call an insurance company and get a policy.

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    Re: Health Care; Privlege, Right or Responsibility?

    for children, its a right.

    for adults, its a right & a responsibility if one has the ability to provide for it.

    as long as we have a law making it a crime for an ER to not treat someone due to financial reasons, one has the obligation to have health insurance.
    Last edited by Thunder; 06-29-12 at 09:19 PM.

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    Re: Health Care; Privlege, Right or Responsibility?

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    Because you're part of the society that makes my life possible.
    This is Stockholm Syndrome. You're saying people should be grateful for their hostage takers. It's a strategic choice since it makes you look good, but it's not ethical.

    You're also saying that all parts of society are equally causal. Would you save two people who are hanging off a cliff equally even if one influenced your life more?

    My life in which I have safe water, access to education, and limitless potential so far as I am willing and desirous to pursue it. That's why.
    Again, you're enslaving supply to demand. Not only is potential limited, but potential takes commitment to be fulfilled.

    I'm not sure why you would even consider saving people who don't personally commit to your potential's fulfillment.

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    Re: Health Care; Privlege, Right or Responsibility?

    i just don't understand why we are the only modern society in the world that still has this discussion.

    everyone else has decided that for the most part, all people have the right to quality healthcare.

    why is the USA soo behind on this issue?


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    Re: Health Care; Privlege, Right or Responsibility?

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    This is Stockholm Syndrome. You're saying people should be grateful for their hostage takers. It's a strategic choice since it makes you look good, but it's not ethical.

    You're also saying that all parts of society are equally causal. Would you save two people who are hanging off a cliff equally even if one influenced your life more?



    Again, you're enslaving supply to demand. Not only is potential limited, but potential takes commitment to be fulfilled.

    I'm not sure why you would even consider saving people who don't personally commit to your potential's fulfillment.
    First off, no one is being taken hostage, so your analogy falls flat on it's face right there.

    Secondly, quality health care for all is part of being in a stable society, which leads to high living conditions, and a great chance of having a good life.

    Also you can want to do something to help your fellow person without it having any direct benefit for you, not all things are cold economic decisions, humanity comes into our thinking.
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