View Poll Results: Is Romney a taitor?

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  • No..he is simply fighting the machine.

    2 15.38%
  • Yes...if he becomes President, he must follow the costitution

    5 38.46%
  • it's murcky..we shoulod let the high courts decid

    0 0%
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    6 46.15%
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Thread: Is Romney a traitor?

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    Re: Is Romney a traitor?

    Quote Originally Posted by jpevans View Post

    It will take a constitutional amendment to overturn.
    I don't think the Romney-Bot a taitor, just not very clear on what a civilian can do.
    What? Where'd you get this painfully incorrect information?

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    Re: Is Romney a traitor?

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post

    I'm confused.
    Whew, boy, so am I.

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    Re: Is Romney a traitor?


    Thanks for the Schooling, my bad.
    I thought I posted yesterday ackowledgeing my mistake, yet I must have done someting wrong.
    So, why is it that Citizens United requires an Amendment to overturn?

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    Because it is considered a tax it will only take 50 republican senators sticking together to repeal Obamacare. If Romney wins, they hold the house, and pick up 3 senate seats it's history. Remember the dems have 23 senate seats to defend so it's very possible the law's repealed before it's implemented.
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    Repealing the law won't happen before January 2013. It would be dependent on a triple Republican victory this November: Mitt Romney would need to defeat President Barack Obama, Republicans must hold their majority in the House, and they must also gain enough seats in the Senate so they have at least 50 of their own in the upper chamber.

    What about the filibuster? Don't you need 60 votes to do anything in the Senate?

    Not in this case. Because Chief Justice John Roberts' majority opinion ruled the individual mandate a "tax," a Republican-led Senate could repeal that provision--and others--using what is called "budget reconciliation," a procedural tactic that requires only a simple majority vote. The Republican vice president, in this hypothetical scenario, would break the tie. (Democrats used the same method in 2010 to pass the health care bill

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    Re: Is Romney a traitor?

    Quote Originally Posted by jpevans View Post

    Thanks for the Schooling, my bad.
    I thought I posted yesterday ackowledgeing my mistake, yet I must have done someting wrong.
    So, why is it that Citizens United requires an Amendment to overturn?
    You can't pass legislation to change the constitution. To explain it in a really, really, REALLY simplified and broad way...the CU case ruled that Corporations have first amendment rights. It ruled on actual constitutional interpritation. The only way to change that would be to actually amend the constitution.

    The ACA case did not rule on an interpritation of the constitution. It ruled on whether or not a law was constutional. It didn't fundamentally change a constitutional interpritation, it simply said a law was constitutional. Just because a law isn't constitutional doesn't mean you can't get rid of it.

    Let me explain it another way....

    Again, being really, really, REALLY simplified here. Roe v. Wade established a new interpritation to a constitutional "right" of privacy that states that abortion is legal. That decision wasn't deeming simply a single law as being constitutional or not but defined an actual constitutional right through interpritation.

    On the flip side...if the Patriot Act was found to be "constitutional" if it went up to the Supreme Court it would simply be deeming the law "okay" by the Constitution. It wouldn't prevent people from overturning it through the legislative process because just because a law is constitutional doesn't mean that it's PART of the constitution.

    Citizen's United ruling that Corporations have 1st amendment rights essentially sets down Constitutional Precedent, meaning it needs constitutional level changes to actually overturn through the legislative process. The ACA Ruling that the Health Care Law is constitutional simply indicates the law itself is constitutional, and as such can be overturned through other legislative measures.

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    Re: Is Romney a traitor?

    All Free Traders are Traitors, or Free Traitors.

    I voted yes, he is a Taitor.
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