View Poll Results: Is Rep. Darrel Issa the new Joe McCarty?

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  • Is Darrel Issa the new Joe McCarthy?

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    Re: Is Rep. Darrel Issa the new Joe McCarty?

    Evil is a strong word. Why is Issa evil in your view?

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    Re: Is Rep. Darrel Issa the new Joe McCarty?

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    If doing 'something stupid' is grounds from removing from governmental service....

    well most of many past administrations would be empty from the Commander in Chief's seat on down. [IMG]file:///C:\Users\leamanj\AppData\Local\Temp\msohtmlclip1\0 1\clip_image001.gif[/IMG]

    Fact is past administrations have withheld information many on the other side of the aisle not to mention many concerned citizens.

    Now about the potential for Rep Issa to make it to McCarthy/**** stain on history. I never say never but I just see our little pooper making it to the big time. Could be wrong about the guy but he just doesn't have that old time religion burn deep in the belly to grandstand with over the top poses for TV.

    He reminds me more of an anal-retentive accountant who wants just keeps picking on your last nerve but never enough backbone to truly push the issue.

    Will be interesting to see if he will put on his big boy pants and try to go toe to toe.
    Well there are various levels of "doing something stupid".

    There is the least problematic (but these days most likely to get you booted out) "stupid decision in hindsight" - which isn't really a stupid decision, but more of a bad call thing.

    Then there's the "everyone gave bad advice and I personally didn't know any better" stupid.

    Then there's the "multiple people gave me good advice, but I knew better" stupid.
    And finally there’s the “I did this because I thought it was right even though decades of history and knowledge, hundreds of knowledgeable professionals, thousands of smart people, hundreds of thousands of average people, and millions of dumb and even illiterate people know that it was wrong, and I still say I was right even though events show I was wrong” stupid...
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    Re: Is Rep. Darrel Issa the new Joe McCarty?

    Issa asked for documents. He's well within his right to ask for them. They haven't been delivered. He's not backing down from what he wants. How does this equate to dragging the country down into the muck?

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    Re: Is Rep. Darrel Issa the new Joe McCarty?

    The difference between Issa and McCarthy is that, regrettably, McCarthy was sincere, but a bit misguided in his pursuit of Communists. Issa is insincere, but very much knows exactly what he is doing, in his pursuit of Holder.

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    Re: Is Rep. Darrel Issa the new Joe McCarty?

    Quote Originally Posted by Feebie View Post
    Issa asked for documents. He's well within his right to ask for them. They haven't been delivered. He's not backing down from what he wants. How does this equate to dragging the country down into the muck?
    LOL, This thing is OVER. He doesn't have to back down...he lost his bid to oust Holder. He's nothing but a loser.

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    Re: Is Rep. Darrel Issa the new Joe McCarty?


    AG Holder released ten's if thousand of documents, some,(He says) are documents that would be a vialation of existing law to release. Seeing as he did release the vast amount that he did & made the offer to confer off record about the others (offer refused by inquesitor Issa) then why can't we take he at his word.

    Bush's attorney told Congress the White House would not turn over subpoenaed documents for former presidential counsel Harriet Miers and former political director Sara Taylor. Congressional panels want the documents for their investigations of Attorney General Alberto Gonzales' stewardship of the Justice Department, including complaints of undue political influence.
    more @ Bush White House Refuses to Answer Congressional Subpoenas - ABC News
    Quote Originally Posted by Feebie View Post
    If there's nothing to hide, then why use Executive Privilege? Let them see what they want to see. It seems simple enough.

    I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now. Bob Dylan

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    Re: Is Rep. Darrel Issa the new Joe McCarty?


    Did I say evil, maybe, I don't recall. Although I do see him as an evil man (& he's not alone) for putting a vendetta ahead of country. He has been relentless in pursueing phantoms, with the professed objective of unseating the current administration, the fast & furous (alleged) scandle exists because Arizona allows the legal sale of unlimited quantities of weapons to any foodstamp resipent who walks in off the street with $60K, as long as they don't have a police record. Issa has publicly implyed that ATF was selling guns to Mexican Cartels with the objective of formenting wars among the various cartels, with an eye to taking away the second amendment. Such an agregish lie is IMO pure evil. The most ATF was/is empowered to do is try & keep the weapons under servailence, although the immediate transfer of the weapons purchused by the "Straw Man' is also legal, inside the U.S. So the only time they can arrest anyone is if they manage to keep track of them, & capture them in the act of transporting them over the border.
    Don't even get me stated on the all male womans health hearing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Feebie View Post
    Evil is a strong word. Why is Issa evil in your view?

    I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now. Bob Dylan

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    Re: Is Rep. Darrel Issa the new Joe McCarty?


    See post #46.

    Quote Originally Posted by Feebie View Post
    Issa asked for documents. He's well within his right to ask for them. They haven't been delivered. He's not backing down from what he wants. How does this equate to dragging the country down into the muck?

    I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now. Bob Dylan

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    Re: Is Rep. Darrel Issa the new Joe McCarty?


    Only the most partisan of people think that Issa has any other goal other to bring down the president.
    Jackson: Darrell Issa's fake drug war
    ........There is also a fake drug war being waged by Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee. Issa has been running a search-and-destroy mission not against the drug cartels, but against our own attorney general. Instead of prosecuting criminals, he now is pushing for a House vote on holding Eric Holder in contempt of Congress for not acceding to his fishing expedition. This unprecedented maneuver could lead to a constitutional crisis.

    The real drug war is a clear and present danger. Between 2006 and February of 2011, more than 37,000 have died in Mexico's drug-related violence. Over one-fourth of the murders took place close to the U.S. border. And the violence has spilled over, with U.S. agents and citizens part of the death toll.

    Rep. Issa's fake drug war is not investigating the war raging on our borders. Rather, his offensive is targeted at harassing the U.S. attorney general and winning political points against the president in the 2012 presidential election season.

    But somehow, the search for truth and justice for all has been lost in this political gamemanship.

    Holder has been dragged before the committee nine times; 7,600 pages of documents have been sent to the committee. But Issa has continued to up the ante, requesting access to items that the DOJ says might interfere with ongoing investigations. The president has sought to protect these investigations and the integrity of our government by invoking executive privilege -- a maneuver employed by nearly every president for the past 40 years. Yet, Chairman Issa has foregone those considerations and has continued to ask for more.....

    The one thing that these older stories keep getting wrong & Issa is at least partly, if not completely responsable, is that somehow ATF had a hand in selling guns, they didn't. All gun sales were conducted legally by legal gun business to legal purchusers & any transfers to other parties were legal under Arizona Law. Rep. Issa has purposely directed this investigation (witch hunt) away from ATF, knowing that at best they would find that they let weapons they had under servailence, slip away.


    ..... more... Jackson: Darrell Issa's fake drug war

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