View Poll Results: Is Rep. Darrel Issa the new Joe McCarty?

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    Re: Is Rep. Darrel Issa the new Joe McCarty?

    I saw the hearings. I was happy they were not just going through the motions and seemed intent on following through. Its obvious some of them are playing to the crowd but some really seemed to have a desire to get to the bottom of the issue. One of them even offered to take it offline away from the cameras behind closed doors with Holder so he would have an opportunity to explain his viewpoints on the current evidence and Holder pretty much told him and the rest to stick it.
    Then another commented that that Holder was using the John Mitchell strategy and Holder jumped like someone poked him with a stick from behind. It was quite entertaining.
    The value of the hearings is doubtful though unless something comes of it. I.E. No more gun walking, Holder goes to jail, a revamp of procedures....something.

    Issa is obviously somewhat self serving. If you want to see idiots watch the green energy hearings on the oversight committee website. Very entertaining and sad at the same time.
    Last edited by akyron; 06-28-12 at 04:43 PM.
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    Re: Is Rep. Darrel Issa the new Joe McCarty?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    It means there is NO excuse for a fishing expedition that infringes on the Presidents powers. Releasin gthose documents would break Federal law too..
    Where are the documents for Cheneys secret meetings with the "Energy task Force"? We never even found out who attended.
    I was on record for Cheney to release those.

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    Re: Is Rep. Darrel Issa the new Joe McCarty?

    There is no question thathe's holding back documents, because the Law prohibits releasing them. I mean what did you think of the fact's disclosed in the Forbes investigation piece quoted in the OP?
    Where ATF agents say that it was Prosocuters who refused to let them make arrests, that ATF sold no (0) zero guns they were just trying to follow them.
    Also what about the poll questions, they concern Issa not Holder or Fluke or anybody else you might desire to put in place.
    How do I make it a poll? Anyone....
    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    my opinion is Holder is withholding info under the guise of national security to save face.

    I say release all the documents and stop hiding behind big government secrecy.

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    Re: Is Rep. Darrel Issa the new Joe McCarty?

    Issa isnt doing anything others havent done before him...its his job to be hatchet man...in the end it will amount to nothing like the all do

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    Re: Is Rep. Darrel Issa the new Joe McCarty?


    Some things should be secret, or are you of a mind that President Obama should have anounced that he was sending in Seal Team 6?
    About the sorry assed poll I don't know how to creat (in post #1), any vote or comment?

    Quote Originally Posted by AreteCourage View Post
    Wouldn't that be nice...

    I say release all documents of any secrecy in government....secrecy contradicts a free and open society
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    Re: Is Rep. Darrel Issa the new Joe McCarty?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    No country should have wide open borders allowing the uncontrolled traffic flow of humans, drugs, cash or guns, yet WE DO. Hmm...
    Why aren't you out there now patrolling your border then? Easier said then done huh.

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    Re: Is Rep. Darrel Issa the new Joe McCarty?


    Is 3 paragraphs Okay?

    Quite simply, there's a fundamental misconception at the heart of the Fast and Furious scandal. Nobody disputes that suspected straw purchasers under surveillance by the ATF repeatedly bought guns that eventually fell into criminal hands. Issa and others charge that the ATF intentionally allowed guns to walk as an operational tactic. But five law-enforcement agents directly involved in Fast and Furious tell Fortune that the ATF had no such tactic. They insist they never purposefully allowed guns to be illegally trafficked. Just the opposite: They say they seized weapons whenever they could but were hamstrung by prosecutors and weak laws, which stymied them at every turn.

    Indeed, a six-month Fortune investigation reveals that the public case alleging that Voth and his colleagues walked guns is replete with distortions, errors, partial truths, and even some outright lies. Fortune reviewed more than 2,000 pages of confidential ATF documents and interviewed 39 people, including seven law-enforcement agents with direct knowledge of the case. [...]

    "Republican senators are whipping up the country into a psychotic frenzy with these reports that are patently false," says Linda Wallace, a special agent with the Internal Revenue Service's criminal investigation unit who was assigned to the Fast and Furious team (and recently retired from the IRS). A self-described gun-rights supporter, Wallace has not been criticized by Issa's committee
    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Hey... I got an idea... shrink that down to like.... 1 concise paragraph (of 10 sentences) with a few links to extra information and I'll speak on it. I ain't reading all that on an iPhone.
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    Re: Is Rep. Darrel Issa the new Joe McCarty?

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    I was on record for Cheney to release those.
    BUt he NEVER did. From Wikipedia......

    Most of the activities of the Energy Task Force have not been disclosed to the public, even though Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests (since 19 April 2001) have sought to gain access to its materials. The organisations Judicial Watch and Sierra Club launched a law suit (U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia: Judicial Watch Inc. v. Department of Energy, et al., Civil Action No. 01-0981) under the FOIA to gain access to the task force's materials. After several years of legal wrangling, in May, 2005 an appeals court permitted the Energy Task Force's records to remain secret
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    Re: Is Rep. Darrel Issa the new Joe McCarty?


    I thought it was the suspicion of arson, that kept him out. What ever happened with that?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Darrell Issa is an idiot. For those people who don't know....he was also the man behind the recall effort in California that got Gray Davis recalled (Which is good, Gray Davis was also a putz)....but what is funny is that Issa expected that he could then run for Governor and win...until Shwarzaneggar entered the race.....Issa withdrew and was on TV crying like a little baby...I'll never forget that image...the guy is a grade A idiot.

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    Re: Is Rep. Darrel Issa the new Joe McCarty?

    So if you want all documents released because we are a democracy then VP Cheney shouldn't have hid behind Executive Privilege, or AG Gonzales, or any terrorist related intel?

    Spec Manning shouldn't be charged for his alleged role in the Wikileaks deal?

    Issa can grandstand all he wants, he is just preaching to the choir and annoying everyone else.

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