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    Re: Dictatorship of the proletariat vs. dictatorship of the bankers

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    The traditional model for most of history is 1-2% of the population controlling the masses with the assistance of 15-2
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    There never has been a dictatorship of the proletariat, but banks in Europe ran **** for years by the simple expedient of threatening to loan your enemies money.
    Soviet Union
    Communist China
    North Korea
    Cuba

    + Many more have all claimed to be dictatorships of the proletariat. They have all proven themselves to be nothing more than dicatatorships. If you think there is even a small % chance any new dictatorship of the proletariat would be anything better than these regimes you are living in dreamland.
    Dictatorship of tha banks, caimed by some about certain democracies but never actually claimed by any nation to be such. Thus I say I have never seen such a system.
    If this thread had an option for democracy I would choose it. It doesnt it gives a choice between 2 dictatorships 1 proven tobe completely horrible to the vast majority of peopel living under it the other not actually seen to hav eever existed. Only a fool would choose that which has proven to be among the worst system to have ever existed over the unknown.
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    Re: Dictatorship of the proletariat vs. dictatorship of the bankers

    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    The seller (owner) had two homes, his old one and the one we bought. He was given a mortgage then a second and the banks shouldn't have; so they ended up with less money than they loaned.
    Wait, I don't understand. Was this a foreclosed house?
    Or may be that dude just sold it to you under priced?

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    Re: Dictatorship of the proletariat vs. dictatorship of the bankers

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    One should bear in mind that dictatorship of the bankers would basically be feudalism.
    One would think that what you said doesn't think that makes any sense.
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    Re: Dictatorship of the proletariat vs. dictatorship of the bankers

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Foley View Post
    One would think that what you said doesn't think that makes any sense.
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    Re: Dictatorship of the proletariat vs. dictatorship of the bankers

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    Soviet Union
    Communist China
    North Korea
    Cuba

    + Many more have all claimed to be dictatorships of the proletariat. They have all proven themselves to be nothing more than dicatatorships. If you think there is even a small % chance any new dictatorship of the proletariat would be anything better than these regimes you are living in dreamland.
    Dictatorship of tha banks, caimed by some about certain democracies but never actually claimed by any nation to be such. Thus I say I have never seen such a system.
    If this thread had an option for democracy I would choose it. It doesnt it gives a choice between 2 dictatorships 1 proven tobe completely horrible to the vast majority of peopel living under it the other not actually seen to hav eever existed. Only a fool would choose that which has proven to be among the worst system to have ever existed over the unknown.
    pretty sure "dictatorship of the proletariat" is a tem of disparagement used by those opposed to communism in any form.

    i dont think any communists ever self identified as such.

    Further, pure democracy is considere a form of dictatorship of the proletariat.
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    Re: Dictatorship of the proletariat vs. dictatorship of the bankers

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    pretty sure "dictatorship of the proletariat" is a tem of disparagement used by those opposed to communism in any form.

    i dont think any communists ever self identified as such.

    Nope, it was coined by the communists


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    Re: Dictatorship of the proletariat vs. dictatorship of the bankers


    Okay, forget France. Bad choice.

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    USA yes. The French revolution ended up with a dictatorship under Napoleaon after a period that was called the "terror" a particularily bad experience for the French.

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    Re: Dictatorship of the proletariat vs. dictatorship of the bankers

    Either one is likely to end up with death for a lot people, so i am not sure the choice matters all that much.

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    I disagree on the U.S. of A., It was truely a people's revolution. That some of the people could read & in some cases had risked their fortune, they were all Radicials, willing to push forward with a fight that they were bound to lose, by the wisdom of the day. The conservitives of the day were called Tory's.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lokiate View Post
    You should read up on history. The Founding Fathers were intellectual men of wealth. The Constitutional government of France, a true peoples revolt, was a complete failure which was overthrown by Napoleon.

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    Re: Dictatorship of the proletariat vs. dictatorship of the bankers

    Quote Originally Posted by jpevans View Post

    I disagree on the U.S. of A., It was truely a people's revolution. That some of the people could read & in some cases had risked their fortune, they were all Radicials, willing to push forward with a fight that they were bound to lose, by the wisdom of the day. The conservitives of the day were called Tory's.
    Gotta agree with Lokiate the US revolution was led by the wealthy living in the colonies, It was not a revolution of the proletariat but of the people (well aside from those who opposed it, ie the Loyalists). It also actually had a lot of sympathy in Britain at the time. At best it can be shown to be the exception to the rule. Most revolutions have been awfull and bloody
    French, Russian, Chinese etc
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