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    Re: Dictatorship of the proletariat vs. dictatorship of the bankers

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    We have, at best, a semi-democracy...40% of the people vote...and how many do this with good judgement ?
    The problem is NOT communist governments, but repressive ones, and there have been many ...nazi Germany for one.
    I'd like to know why we cannot compromise , why we cannot have balance..
    40% participation does not equal semi-democracy, it just means 60% don't care. Not the same thing.
    yes, Nazi-Germany was an evil dictatorship, but the choice was between dictatorship of the bankers, a situation that has never existed, but seems close to an aristocracy or dictatorship of the proletariat, which has been tried over and over again to the extreme detriment of the proletariat.
    I guess my point was dictatorships are bad period. If I have to choose I'll choose the one that has not been tried and proven to be terrible, if only on the faint faint hope it wont be quite as bad as the other one.

    As to compromise/balance of course that would be better. The Op only gave a choice between 2 dicatorships, there is no reason to expect a dictatorship to compromise.
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    Re: Dictatorship of the proletariat vs. dictatorship of the bankers

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    You think plutocrats have no use for machine guns?

    I imagine if you objected to the divvy up the plutocrats hand down they'd break out the machine guns too.
    "peoples revolutions" have a long history of massive failure, and consist of some of the worst of human rights violations.
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    Re: Dictatorship of the proletariat vs. dictatorship of the bankers

    Quote Originally Posted by Lokiate View Post
    "peoples revolutions" have a long history of massive failure, and consist of some of the worst of human rights violations.
    Of course.

    Still, I will choose the option that DOESNT concentrate power over the one that does.
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    Re: Dictatorship of the proletariat vs. dictatorship of the bankers

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Of course.

    Still, I will choose the option that DOESNT concentrate power over the one that does.
    I'm with you on that one.


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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: Dictatorship of the proletariat vs. dictatorship of the bankers

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Of course.

    Still, I will choose the option that DOESNT concentrate power over the one that does.
    So you choose the dictatorship of the bankers then?
    They both concentrate the power but despite it's name the dictatorship of the proletariat does concentrate the power in the hands of a few (or in pretty much every case the 1) where as the bankers I am assuming would be some sort of aristocracy, Ie spread out over more than 1 person.
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    Re: Dictatorship of the proletariat vs. dictatorship of the bankers

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Of course.

    Still, I will choose the option that DOESNT concentrate power over the one that does.
    "peoples revolutions" do exactly that.
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    France, the U.S.of A. ring any bells?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lokiate View Post
    "peoples revolutions" have a long history of massive failure, and consist of some of the worst of human rights violations.

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    Re: Dictatorship of the proletariat vs. dictatorship of the bankers

    Quote Originally Posted by jpevans View Post

    France, the U.S.of A. ring any bells?
    USA yes. The French revolution ended up with a dictatorship under Napoleaon after a period that was called the "terror" a particularily bad experience for the French.
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    Re: Dictatorship of the proletariat vs. dictatorship of the bankers

    Quote Originally Posted by jpevans View Post

    France, the U.S.of A. ring any bells?
    You should read up on history. The Founding Fathers were intellectual men of wealth. The Constitutional government of France, a true peoples revolt, was a complete failure which was overthrown by Napoleon.
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    Re: Dictatorship of the proletariat vs. dictatorship of the bankers

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    So you choose the dictatorship of the bankers then?
    They both concentrate the power but despite it's name the dictatorship of the proletariat does concentrate the power in the hands of a few (or in pretty much every case the 1) where as the bankers I am assuming would be some sort of aristocracy, Ie spread out over more than 1 person.
    The traditional model for most of history is 1-2% of the population controlling the masses with the assistance of 15-2
    %.

    There never has been a dictatorship of the proletariat, but banks in Europe ran **** for years by the simple expedient of threatening to loan your enemies money.
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