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    Re: Can you be a slave owner and a libertarian at the same time?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post

    Can you be a slave owner and a libertarian at the same time?[/SIZE][/FONT]


    Yes.If you do not view your slaves as human beings.If you do not view a certain group as human beings its real easy to hold contradictory views, for example many abortionists are for human rights but they do not view the unborn as human.
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    Re: Can you be a slave owner and a libertarian at the same time?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    blacks were considered human...just an inferior form of human.
    lol


    Tell yourself what ever you want thunder. It doesn't change a thing that has bee said.

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    Re: Can you be a slave owner and a libertarian at the same time?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Well you could, you'd just be a flaming hypocrite.
    Or simply believe that minorities aren't fully human.

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    The correct answer is Yes.

    You are assuming that every libertarian believes all humanoids on this planet are the same and therefore equal and entitled to the same.

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    Re: Can you be a slave owner and a libertarian at the same time?

    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalModerate View Post
    No one's asking if it's physically possible to be a slave-owning "libertarian", but if it's consistent with your proclaimed political philosophy.
    no. He was clearly asking about the founders. So the answer depends on how they saw things.


    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    if you want to be respected, debate the subject, and don't waste our time on obvious and simple grammar and spelling errors as you just did. nobody is impressed you caught a minor mistake that caused no confusion to those in the thread.
    Or how about not making a big deal about someone being corrected and instead learn from the mistake, and move on?

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    Re: Can you be a slave owner and a libertarian at the same time?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Or simply believe that minorities aren't fully human.
    Minorities? lol

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    Re: Can you be a slave owner and a libertarian at the same time?

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Minorities? lol
    In the context of the US population demographics.

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    Re: Can you be a slave owner and a libertarian at the same time?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lokiate View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    And?
    If the others are not considered human, self-ownership does not enter the picture.
    Civil Rights are egalitarian by nature, so this "concern" is a non-issue.
    Civil Rights?

    We are speaking during the time of the founders and how they viewed things.

    Secondly. There are no Civil Rights to be applied if one is considered to be not human, not fully human, just humanoid, etc...

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    Re: Can you be a slave owner and a libertarian at the same time?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    In the context of the US population demographics.
    You understand that the word itself does not just mean a minority in population right?
    But entails a difference from the rest?

    3a : a part of a population differing from others in some characteristics and often subjected to differential treatment
    Minority - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary



    Hence, part of the population being considered not human, or not human enough.
    So a libertarian, if that is what they believed, would have be no conflict.

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    Re: Can you be a slave owner and a libertarian at the same time?

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    You understand that the word itself does not just mean a minority in population right?
    But entails a difference from the rest?

    3a : a part of a population differing from others in some characteristics and often subjected to differential treatment
    Minority - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
    I clarified when asked. If you need further clarification, in the context I was writing about, it would be white non hispanic population groups.

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Hence, part of the population being considered not human, or not human enough.
    So a libertarian, if that is what they believed, would have be no conflict.
    Yes, a racist libertarian would not see a conflict ...

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    Re: Can you be a slave owner and a libertarian at the same time?

    I'm a libertarian, but I don't think Republicans should vote because they're sub-human.
    So follow me into the desert
    As desperate as you are
    Where the moon is glued to a picture of heaven
    And all the little pigs have God

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