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Thread: Can you be a slave owner and a libertarian at the same time?

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    Re: Can you be a slave owner and a libertarian at the same time?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lokiate View Post
    I'm a moderate, so I have no problem with necessary regulation as long as it doesn't hurt the employer.
    Didn't outlawing slavery "harm" the slave-owning businessmen by simple virtue of eliminating their work force?

    However, I believe the train of thought is that such regulation comes naturally through what the employees will and will not tolerate. No employees, no production, and ultimately, no business.
    Slaves aren't employees, though. Ergo, the idea that "no employees = no production" is demonstrably false.
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    Re: Can you be a slave owner and a libertarian at the same time?

    can you be a person of above average intellect and the op of this thread at the same time?

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    Re: Can you be a slave owner and a libertarian at the same time?

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    can you be a person of above average intellect and the op of this thread at the same time?
    of course you can, as the OP is an intelligent one.

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    Re: Can you be a slave owner and a libertarian at the same time?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Didn't outlawing slavery "harm" the slave-owning businessmen by simple virtue of eliminating their work force?
    I don't believe the rights of business exceeds individual human rights.



    Slaves aren't employees, though. Ergo, the idea that "no employees = no production" is demonstrably false.
    I was talking about regulation of employment there, not slavery.
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    Re: Can you be a slave owner and a libertarian at the same time?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Oh so what you're saying is that some people aren't really people?
    I have no idea why you want to make this personal, because I did not say that some people are not really people.
    We are not discussion my personal beliefs.

    You proffered a question, to which the answer is yes, because it depends on how a person views other humanoids.
    At the time in question many races were not considered of the same stature. So of course they could be a libertarian and own slaves because the others were just humanoids, definitely not of the same stature.

    Now, if you want to change your op to make it dependent on the way we see things in today's day and age, that would be a different question.
    But as it is, the answer to your question is... Yes.





    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    I think resolving the question does come down to the matter of whether the libertarian sees another being as an equal. If the other being is not thought of as an equal, in fact not really human, then what is the difference between owning a dog or a cat and owning a being that looks like a human but really isn't? - in the libertarian's specific belief system.
    I see another person gets it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lokiate View Post
    You're forgetting one thing: The Libertarian doctrine of self-ownership.
    And?
    If the others are not considered human, self-ownership does not enter the picture.

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    Re: Can you be a slave owner and a libertarian at the same time?

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
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    And?
    If the others are not considered human, self-ownership does not enter the picture.
    blacks were considered human...just an inferior form of human.

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    Re: Can you be a slave owner and a libertarian at the same time?

    i cant be a slave owner and a human at the same time
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    Re: Can you be a slave owner and a libertarian at the same time?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    What century are you folks living in again???

    Can you be a former slave and own slaves? Can you be black and own black slaves. Can you be a democrat and really pretend to give a **** about minorities?

    Such questions....
    No one's asking if it's physically possible to be a slave-owning "libertarian", but if it's consistent with your proclaimed political philosophy.

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    Re: Can you be a slave owner and a libertarian at the same time?

    i'm wondering what ideology would find slavery as consistent with it's tenants....

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    Re: Can you be a slave owner and a libertarian at the same time?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    i'm wondering what ideology would find slavery as consistent with it's tenants....
    islamism....
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