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    Re: Was Ronald Reagan a libertarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    I have to disagree on Reagan being what we needed. He was the exact opposite. We didn't need to spend like a hot war to fight a cold war. Massive and often ill conceived spending sprees expanded our debt to what was then unthinkable levels. To counter the Soviet threat is one thing. To send Marines to die in Lebanon, another. We went from a flexible containment to fight even three guys we think MIGHT not want our 'guidance'. From helping hand to warped Hollywood version of a High Noon Sheriff in a B movie.

    What wasn't mentioned anywhere was for all Ronnie railed against taxes he increased them almost every year he was in office. He signed executive orders and bills to limit the 2nd amendment. he shrugged off the mounting, unprecedented debt as something every family in America has.

    Ronnie was a lot of things but he seemed far more like a neo-con, big government, spend our children's future soft soap salesman than anything we would call responsible.
    Don't get me wrong - I'm not saying Reagan was what we needed.

    Rather what I'm saying is that what we didn't need back then was a libertarian President.

    Hell, even Goldwater was ready to use nukes against the USSR and take a strong stance against them. That was helped Johnson win the '64 election.

    Don't get me wrong - I'm not lionizing Reagan. Rather I'm saying that we would have been worse off with a more wholly libertarian President.
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    Re: Was Ronald Reagan a libertarian?

    Reagan didn't have a Libertarian bone in his body.
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    Re: Was Ronald Reagan a libertarian?

    My Bad, my bias is showing.

    Way I see it, no way in HAIL will we ever have a libertarian President. The Imperialists won't stand the military cuts from a libertarian anymore than they would a liberal. The Socialists won't abide drastic cuts in the social safety net. If the libertarian President is a strong invisible hand lassez faire man then the economy will roller coaster to the point most citizens barf during the ride.

    To me there is a reason the most libertarian theory gets is lip service in this nation.

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    Re: Was Ronald Reagan a libertarian?

    Other than a handful of tendencies, no of course not.
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    Re: Was Ronald Reagan a libertarian?

    not even close. If you only pay attention to his words and ignore his deeds, then you might be able to argue more in favor of such a concept.

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    Re: Was Ronald Reagan a libertarian?

    Reagen signed into law the requirement that ALL hospitals MUST treat anyone, regardless of their ability to pay for care. This was hardly a Libertarian legislation.

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    Re: Was Ronald Reagan a libertarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    Reagen signed into law the requirement that ALL hospitals MUST treat anyone, regardless of their ability to pay for care. This was hardly a Libertarian legislation.
    To the bolded: this applies to emergencies, not medical care in general.
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    Re: Was Ronald Reagan a libertarian?

    He was a great orator, leader, human being and, of course, a great president. Asking the OP's question is tantamount to asking if Jefferson was a liberal or conservative. Regardless, his legacy is evident in the whinging of liberals who, through his derision, chose to re-label themselves as progressives.

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    Re: Was Ronald Reagan a libertarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    My Bad, my bias is showing.

    Way I see it, no way in HAIL will we ever have a libertarian President. The Imperialists won't stand the military cuts from a libertarian anymore than they would a liberal. The Socialists won't abide drastic cuts in the social safety net. If the libertarian President is a strong invisible hand lassez faire man then the economy will roller coaster to the point most citizens barf during the ride.

    To me there is a reason the most libertarian theory gets is lip service in this nation.
    The problem is that everyone wants their way or the highway, which means no way to any progress happening in this country until something changes. This country wasn't based solely on Libertarianism, or the Republicans, or even the Democrats; there was plenty of authoritarianism, liberalism, war hawking, etc. to go around. We got through hard times and policy debates via compromise. Nobody today is doing that. Everyone is too busy pointing out the faults of everyone else from atop ivory towers, completely unaware of their own faults. The truth of the matter is that we need all three parties.

    The synopsis of our current political situation is that Democrats want to help the members of the populace who can't help themselves i.e. the poor and destitute. The Republicans want to look out for the wealthy, the industry, the economy, the Libertarians want to preserve personal liberties and freedoms, and some of the smaller local movements are concerned about rent being too damn high. If these parties took the time to actually work together, all 3 could actually achieve solutions and goals that work toward the betterment of this nation. Instead, we're too proud to even consider compromise, which is ****ing us all.
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    Re: Was Ronald Reagan a libertarian?

    Despite their covering ideological cloud of a socially permissive Big Tent, the only thing Libertarians really care about is unrestricted cheating, looting, hoarding, and blowing bubbles while soaking the rest of us in their bubble bath. Reagan made them feel good about themselves as he rang their bells and blew their whistles at their wild party, after which the rest of us were the only ones suffering a hangover.
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