View Poll Results: Who should PUBLIC tax payer funded school teacher evaluations be released to?

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  • Anyone regardless where they live can get evaluations just by requesting them.

    6 22.22%
  • Anyone who lives in school district can get evaluations just by requesting them.

    3 11.11%
  • Anybody living school district. But has to schedule an appointment get evaluations.

    0 0%
  • Anyone regardless where they live.But has to schedule an appointment get evaluations.

    0 0%
  • Parents regardless where they live can get evaluations just by requesting them.

    1 3.70%
  • Parents who live in school district can get evaluations just by requesting them.

    1 3.70%
  • Parents living in school district. But has to schedule an appointment get evaluations.

    2 7.41%
  • Parents regardless where they live.But has to schedule an appointment get evaluations

    0 0%
  • Public tax payer funded teachers should not have their evaluations released to anyone

    9 33.33%
  • other/I do not know.

    5 18.52%
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    Re: Who should PUBLIC tax payer funded school teacher evaluations be released to?

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    Re: Who should PUBLIC tax payer funded school teacher evaluations be released to?

    And Bloomberg's tyrannical decision is going to help reduce teacher turnover how?

    Who here is actually naive enough to think that only the "bad teachers" will be the ones to leave?
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    Re: Who should PUBLIC tax payer funded school teacher evaluations be released to?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    And Bloomberg's tyrannical decision is going to help reduce teacher turnover how?

    Who here is actually naive enough to think that only the "bad teachers" will be the ones to leave?
    In New-York it is extremely hard to fire a bad teacher. The only thing that really seems to get teachers fired are budget cuts and if New York is anything like California they they do their firings based on seniority instead of performance

    Joel Klein vs. New York City teachers : The New Yorker
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    Re: Who should PUBLIC tax payer funded school teacher evaluations be released to?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    In New-York it is extremely hard to fire a bad teacher. The only thing that really seems to get teachers fired are budget cuts and if New York is anything like California they they do their firings based on seniority instead of performance

    Joel Klein vs. New York City teachers : The New Yorker
    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/16/ny.../16rubber.html
    Rubber Rooms Redux, Teachers Unions and Taxpayers Hot Air

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    You didn't answer my question. How is releasing all this previously confidential data going to reduce teacher turnover?
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    Re: Who should PUBLIC tax payer funded school teacher evaluations be released to?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    You didn't answer my question. How is releasing all this previously confidential data going to reduce teacher turnover?
    It will make parents seek other schools.It will make parents push their elected officials even more to enact laws to make it easier to fire lousy teachers.Unlike New York California has what are called parent trigger laws.This is basically a die hard teacher union's worst nightmare. Releasing teacher evaluations to their employers IE the tax payers could aid in pushing for a parent trigger laws or some other laws to make it easier to get rid of bad teachers in New York.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Who should PUBLIC tax payer funded school teacher evaluations be released to?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    It will make parents seek other schools.It will make parents push their elected officials even more to enact laws to make it easier to fire lousy teachers.Unlike New York California has what are called parent trigger laws.This is basically a die hard teacher union's worst nightmare. Releasing teacher evaluations to their employers IE the tax payers could aid in pushing for a parent trigger laws or some other laws to make it easier to get rid of bad teachers in New York.
    You are STILL dodging my question. How does releasing previously confidential information reduce teacher turnover?
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    Re: Who should PUBLIC tax payer funded school teacher evaluations be released to?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Where the money comes from is irreleant. McDonalds pays their employees with money that comes from you, as do schools.
    Its very relevant. One is forced, the other is voluntary. There is a definate distinction there.
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    Re: Who should PUBLIC tax payer funded school teacher evaluations be released to?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    You are STILL dodging my question. How does releasing previously confidential information reduce teacher turnover?
    I don't care about turnover. I care about getting good teachers in the school system instead of ones that sleep during class like my 3rd period history teacher did when I was in school.

    Besides, once there are good teachers then it should be obvious that the turnover rate would be less as they wouldn't need to be replaced for being bad teachers.
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    Re: Who should PUBLIC tax payer funded school teacher evaluations be released to?

    I might have accidentally picked the wrong one but parents who live in school district can get evaluations just by requesting them. I would also say other schools, especially if a teacher wants to transfer to another district. Only because those two have a vested interest in the teacher. Since schools are subsidized by state taxes, and not federal taxes (that I'm aware of) only those within the state of the school should have any access if that state has its own state income tax.
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    Re: Who should PUBLIC tax payer funded school teacher evaluations be released to?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    You are STILL dodging my question. How does releasing previously confidential information reduce teacher turnover?
    Employers have the right to see the evaluations of their employees. Releasing employee evaluations to their employers will not reduce teacher turnover. T
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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