View Poll Results: Who should PUBLIC tax payer funded school teacher evaluations be released to?

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  • Anyone regardless where they live can get evaluations just by requesting them.

    6 22.22%
  • Anyone who lives in school district can get evaluations just by requesting them.

    3 11.11%
  • Anybody living school district. But has to schedule an appointment get evaluations.

    0 0%
  • Anyone regardless where they live.But has to schedule an appointment get evaluations.

    0 0%
  • Parents regardless where they live can get evaluations just by requesting them.

    1 3.70%
  • Parents who live in school district can get evaluations just by requesting them.

    1 3.70%
  • Parents living in school district. But has to schedule an appointment get evaluations.

    2 7.41%
  • Parents regardless where they live.But has to schedule an appointment get evaluations

    0 0%
  • Public tax payer funded teachers should not have their evaluations released to anyone

    9 33.33%
  • other/I do not know.

    5 18.52%
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    Re: Who should PUBLIC tax payer funded school teacher evaluations be released to?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    If I had a child, I'd personally like to know the integrity and capability of someone who has a large influence in their behavior and education.
    Yes, but the correct solution to that is to give administrators the ability to fire someone too unethical or incompetent to do the job well.

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    Re: Who should PUBLIC tax payer funded school teacher evaluations be released to?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Only their bosses. Job performance evaluations should not be public.
    So you are saying employers do not have the right to see the job performance evaluations of their employees? Seeing how we the tax payers are the employers of these PUBLIC school teachers, then they work for us,which makes us their bosses.
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    Re: Who should PUBLIC tax payer funded school teacher evaluations be released to?

    I remember a TWILIGHT ZONE episode where some humans were put into a very nice home to live and it turned out to be some sort of alien zoo attraction. The aliens would come and stare at them and they had no private life of any kind.

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    Re: Who should PUBLIC tax payer funded school teacher evaluations be released to?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I remember a TWILIGHT ZONE episode where some humans were put into a very nice home to live and it turned out to be some sort of alien zoo attraction. The aliens would come and stare at them and they had no private life of any kind.

    Rod Serling was a prophet.
    What nonsense does this have to do with employers looking at the job evaluations of their employees?
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Who should PUBLIC tax payer funded school teacher evaluations be released to?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I think anyone should be able to make request public tax payer funded teacher's evaluations.Teachers are tax payer funded employees.As the people who pay their wages we should be allowed to see their performance evaluations.
    Can we do the same for military, police, firefighters, politicians, etc.?
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    Re: Who should PUBLIC tax payer funded school teacher evaluations be released to?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I would make school evaluations public. But yes, individual evaluations should be used for fitness reports, and hiring/firing/promotion issues. No need for parents to start suing the school because little johnny got the second best science teacher.
    OH, absolutely school evaluations and performance should be available to the public.
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    Re: Who should PUBLIC tax payer funded school teacher evaluations be released to?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    So you are saying employers do not have the right to see the job performance evaluations of their employees? Seeing how we the tax payers are the employers of these PUBLIC school teachers, then they work for us,which makes us their bosses.
    We are not their employers, any more than we are not the employer of the mcDonalds worker who makes our food. The local school system is their employer.
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    Re: Who should PUBLIC tax payer funded school teacher evaluations be released to?

    I think at the very least parents should be allowed to see the most recent evaluations for the teachers assigned to their children. If I find out that Johnny's teacher has a hard time with discipline then I can try to compensate for that by working with Johnny outside of school. If I find out that Johnny's teacher had the lowest math test scores on last year's STAR test then I can compensate for that by working with Johnny on his math in preparation for that test.

    For me, it isn't about "OMG, GIVE MY CHILD THE #1 TEACHER!". It's about making sure that I'm compensating for the natural weaknesses that exist in all of us (as best I can), but supplementing my child's education where the teacher isn't as strong.

    I am a HUGE advocate for completely redesigning our education system and I am well aware that there are far too many (even if it's a small portion, it's always too many) "bad" teachers who aren't teaching for the right reasons.....but my interest in evaluations has nothing to do with penalizing teachers or harassing the administrators to hire them. It's about making sure my child is receiving the most balanced educational experience possible. I need to know where my focuses should be when my child comes home from school, and evaluations of the teacher and my child's progress are two good ways of making sure I focus correctly.
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    Re: Who should PUBLIC tax payer funded school teacher evaluations be released to?

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    Righties always seem to have such a hard on for teachers... Did you guys have a rough time in school or what?
    I'm not a righty but my public schooling was a joke. I realized just how bad it was when I went to college. And I was on the honor role in high school!

    As a parent paying taxes I should be able to know if the school I want to send my son to is filled with sh1tty teachers.
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    Re: Who should PUBLIC tax payer funded school teacher evaluations be released to?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
    I feel that a face to face meeting is rather unnecessary, that being said the instructors name and corresponding evaluation should only be available to the parents of the children who are taught by said instructor. Making them available to the general public as a whole would be foolish in my opinion, seeing as there is already more than enough theatrics surrounding discussions of the public school system in general in the present era.
    What good would that do? Knowing that teacher X is rated at 6 (on a scale of 1 to 10) tells you NOTHING, as you still have 1) no idea what that 6 means, 2) no way of changing your kids teacher from teacher X's class (in that school) and 3) no idea if that school has any teacher's better/worse than teacher X (teaching that grade level).

    What is needed, IMHO, is to know how the students, that have actually been taught by teacher X, do on a standardized evaluation test compared with students, in that same school and at the same grade level, that were NOT taught by teacher X did. After all, it does not matter what the administration or "peer teachers" THINK of the performance of teacher X, what matters, IMHO, is the effect teacher X had on the education imparted to their students compared to the peers of those students.

    Only knowing if those students actually taught by tearcher X did better, worse or the same as SIMILAR students that were not taught by teacher X is likely to be of value. If you had THAT information, then you would have a better feel for which teachers are "better" than their peers AT THAT SCHOOL. Obviously a third grade teacher in a more affluent district is going to have an easier class to teach, than a third grade teacher in a poor or heavily non-english speaking area, and thus may receive a better "evaluation" by their administration, but if you can compare those teachers only to those other teachers WITHIN THEIR ASSIGNED ENVIRONMENTS, then much of those "other factors" make much less difference.

    The bottom line is that you, and all of the other parents, want to keep the better teachers (by paying them more), help improve the average teachers (by ???) and get rid of the worst teachers (by paying them less or simply dismissing them). Teacher performance can only be truely evaluated as it applies to the end results; how much did that teacher help educate their assigned students, all else is simply politics, personalities or smoke and mirrors, controlled by the "in crowd" that now allows our schools to cost more yet produce less, nearly every year.
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