View Poll Results: Will the Tea Party Succeed?

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    Re: Do you think the tea party will succeed?

    The fact that they had such little influence in the selection of the GOP nominee is pretty much evidence that the tea party is dead, at least on a national level. They probably will have some influence in a few local elections.
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    Re: Do you think the tea party will succeed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Depends on what you mean by success.
    Hard to answer without knowing

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    Re: Do you think the tea party will succeed?

    I was at some early Tea Party counter demonstrations. They were so clueless that their only chance is strong leadership. But, what leadership?
    Last edited by OhIsee.Then; 06-20-12 at 02:15 AM.

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    Re: Do you think the tea party will succeed?

    Quote Originally Posted by XPG4M3R View Post
    Well i guess i mean with their goal, they believe that if we exercise their beliefs, america won't go over the same cliff as Greece (and that's where were headed), but if I had to choose from your choices i'd say national level, more of like an overall kind of thing.
    Multi-laywered answer then.

    First, they've already succeeded to a point. The 2010 race saw a number of Tea Party backed, and Tea Party type if not specifically backed, candidates entering into the House and the Senate. Their entrance into the House has largely helped lead a push, with questionable success at times albiet, to further their ideological agenda.

    Second, they've managed to steer the focus at least somewhat for the Republican establishment and for the 2012 race towards the fiscal end of things. It's still a bit questionable about how much of a success that is since the economic issues going on would perhaps push it to the forefront as well. Still, the Republicans, by and large, since 2010 seem to have been more focused on governmental and fiscal issues and pushing the social issues less strongly. Typically, the massive social conservative talk over the past little bit has been spurred by off handed comments by primary candidates followed by the media and those on the left making it a continued issue to talk about. Strangely, it's the Left, not the right, so far this year making the most hay out of Social issues it seems. That change in the Republican party, I think, is at least a bit attributed to the Tea Party.

    Third, I think they could see some success with regards to congressional elections again. That's truly where the movement is at it's best due to the nature of its operation.

    Fourth, I think they will continue to have little real impact on the Presidential Election in terms of sizable support or greater voice, though a better impact then they did during the primaries. I've explained it numerous times on the forum so won't go into detail, but because of the regional and segmented nature of the Tea Party it is better situated for congressional support than Presidential support due to the ability to tailor candidates to the additional, non-tea party, concerns of that particular locations populatoin.

    Fifth, in the sense of having lasting success, it's hard to say really. I think movements rarely succeed at getting everything they want, and additionally I think that once a movement gets most of what it wants and gets to the spirit of what it was pushing for they tend to transform into a disgusting misrepresentation of themselves that is based less on actual principle and more on individuals wishing to use it for power. I think ultimately the Tea Party will have some success shifting the view point of the Republican Party to a certain degree, but due to the regional nature and overlap of the movement with other conservative movements I think they'll be hard pressed to succeed at any sizable, long lasting, significant shift unless some kind of centralized political figure could come forth with enough charisma to bypass the various ideological divides between different regional tea party groups and actually unite them behind a singular presidential candidate.

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    Re: Do you think the tea party will succeed?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    The fact that they had such little influence in the selection of the GOP nominee is pretty much evidence that the tea party is dead, at least on a national level. They probably will have some influence in a few local elections.
    The choice of the Republican nominie was mainly helped by the MSM. The MSM attacked the conservative candidates one by one until what was left was two "moderate" canadates one neo-con and a hard core libertarian.
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    Re: Do you think the tea party will succeed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Succeed at what?

    Electoral success? On a national or state level? Legislative or Executive level or both?

    Ideological success? Changing the core of the Republican Party? Affecting the conversation going on regarding fiscal and governmental issues in America?

    How are you meaning success?
    Given where the Tea Party went, I assumed he meant success in the form of "will force the Republican Party back into fiscal conservatism / small government".

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    Re: Do you think the tea party will succeed?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Given where the Tea Party went, I assumed he meant success in the form of "will force the Republican Party back into fiscal conservatism / small government".
    How can any this be anserwed without an itemized listing of the goals, actions, beliefs, targets, or whatever that are actually being pursued by Teabaggers? It's an airball!

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