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What should be the US National Anthem?

What should be the US National Anthem?

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There are those who can find offence in anything.
How many times has a Republican idea been proposed by President Obama, (example, the Government Mandate) & R's suddenly oppose it? :peace
Catawba said:
I've never heard anyone complain about those issues with this song.
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The Mark said:
And using their anthem would?
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Definitely. Those moose-****ers take great pride in knowing th ewords to their national anthem and it'll drive them crazy to hear thousands of Americans singing "O Canada, mmm mm mmm mm mm mmmmmm, eh!"
 
This would be more appropriate for modern 'merica than hippieish songs about kindness, giving, sharing, or patriotism, since none of that seems to exist in the US anymore.
 
Dude, seriously, how has my Rick Derringer suggestion not been the top choice??? Elementary school would have been so much better if we had to sing Hulk Hogan's theme song every morning!
 
Zyphlin said:
I'd suggest staying with the current one. The fact it's hard to sing isn't a reason to change it in my mind. Neither is the notion it's about War....this country was born through warfare, it's part of it's history regardless if we like it or not.
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So was our treatment of the native Americans and slavery, but it doesn't mean we have to glorify them in a national anthem. Just sayin'..............
 
Catawba said:
So was our treatment of the native Americans and slavery, but it doesn't mean we have to glorify them in a national anthem. Just sayin'..............
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Thank you for comparing as equivelents the mass enslavement of a race of people and the massive killing and removing of another race of people to fighting a war for american independence. It provides wonderful insight into how seriously to take your comments.
 
Zyphlin said:
Thank you for comparing as equivelents the mass enslavement of a race of people and the massive killing and removing of another race of people to fighting a war for american independence. It provides wonderful insight into how seriously to take your comments.
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The War of 1812 wasn't about Independence, it was about the British pirating our merchant ships sent to give aid to Napoleon, and us saying **** you guys, we're going to kick your ass again, despite Washington telling us to stay the hell out of foreign engagements in his final address to the People.
 
After thinking about congress and our politicians for a while, I've decided that Entrance of the Gladiators would make the most sense.
 
Lokiate said:
The War of 1812 wasn't about Independence, it was about the British pirating our merchant ships sent to give aid to Napoleon, and us saying **** you guys, we're going to kick your ass again, despite Washington telling us to stay the hell out of foreign engagements in his final address to the People.
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Never suggested the SSB was about the Revolutionary War. I stated that the fact it was a song that references "war" doesn't exactly bother me since the notion of "war" in general doesn't bother me in relation to patriotism and our country seeing how our founding was able to take place DUE to war. So a song concerning War doesn't bother me as much as a song about say...Slavery or the treatement of native americans...when it comes to our national anthem because War, and patriotic imagery regarding War, is a positive thing in our countries history dating back to its very founding.
 
Zyphlin said:
Never suggested the SSB was about the Revolutionary War. I stated that the fact it was a song that references "war" doesn't exactly bother me since the notion of "war" in general doesn't bother me in relation to patriotism and our country seeing how our founding was able to take place DUE to war. So a song concerning War doesn't bother me as much as a song about say...Slavery or the treatement of native americans...when it comes to our national anthem because War, and patriotic imagery regarding War, is a positive thing in our countries history dating back to its very founding.
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My mistake, I thought you were saying the Star Spangled Banner was about the AR.
 

This land belongs to you & me was/is how Native people view the earth. There is no mention of any ethnicity in the song.
I'm an atheist & I see steeples every day, don't bother me none.. I don't evangilize my lack of religian. Keep religian out of politics & don't come knockin' at my door & I'm cool with it. :peace
Lokiate said:
Indians rejected the notion of land ownership, for one. Plus, there's no mention of them in the song. It would also piss off extremist atheists with mention of a steeple.
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jpevans said:

This land belongs to you & me was/is how Native people view the earth. There is no mention of any ethnicity in the song.
I'm an atheist & I see steeples every day, don't bother me none.. I don't evangilize my lack of religian. Keep religian out of politics & don't come knockin' at my door & I'm cool with it. :peace
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Their view was that it doesn't belong to anyone, and since it would mostly be the descendants of colonists singing the song, I think you get my point. There's also a reason why I said extremist atheists.
 
Zyphlin said:
Thank you for comparing as equivelents the mass enslavement of a race of people and the massive killing and removing of another race of people to fighting a war for american independence. It provides wonderful insight into how seriously to take your comments.
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War is a necessity at times, but never something to be glorified, IMO. Its just the way I was raised.
 
[ As I was out walking, I saw a sign there,
& on that sing it said No Trespassing,
But on the other side, it didn't say nothing,
that side was made for you & me.

This land is your land, this land is my land,
From California to the New York Island,
From the red wood forest to the Gulf stream waters,
This Land is made fore you & me. :peace
 
All the other credible songs given as suggestions are incredibly boring. I have always been inspired by the ssb, both the music and lyrics. I have frequently commented how our anthem is far better than any I have heard from other nations.

How can you not have chills on "Oh say does that star spangled banner yet wave, o'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?"? The question has always had a double meaning for me:
  1. Are we still free from foreign rule
  2. Have we been vigilant in preserving and strengthening our freedom, or have we let it degrade?

I know that the second is not likely the intended meaning, but the music that goes with the line seems to invite a broader contemplation.

The lyrics throughout this song successfully invoke through artful imagery feelings of pride in our ideals and courage; rather than unartfully making the attempt, or worse attempting to describe how we should feel.

War is necessary at times to reassert liberty, there is nothing wrong in glorifying the courage to live up to that necessity. This is what this song glorifies, not war itself. That distinction is significant. It would be a good thing if more people across the world would have that kind of courage. This is my final reason for wanting to keep it: It is a reminder to us as to which side we should be taking with regard to conflicts where liberty is a factor, even though we don't always live up to it.
 
jpevans said:
[ As I was out walking, I saw a sign there,
& on that sing it said No Trespassing,
But on the other side, it didn't say nothing,
that side was made for you & me.

This land is your land, this land is my land,
From California to the New York Island,
From the red wood forest to the Gulf stream waters,
This Land is made fore you & me. :peace
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People asked what could be offensive about "This land is your land"? Depends which version. Not surprising that two of the people suggesting the song want the version that was clearly:

1) Politically motivated
2) Advocates against private property
3) With the additional line, the vauge implication of the "this land is your land, this land is my land" theme being more literalistic communal in nature rather than metaphorically suggesting simple "togetherness"

All of which could offend some people.

As previously stated...just about any song you pick can be an offensive choice to some people. Thanks jpevans for highlighting the version I figured, but couldn't know for sure, he and Haymarket apparently prefer which best highlights that point.
 
jpevans said:
[ As I was out walking, I saw a sign there,
& on that sing it said No Trespassing,
But on the other side, it didn't say nothing,
that side was made for you & me.

This land is your land, this land is my land,
From California to the New York Island,
From the red wood forest to the Gulf stream waters,
This Land is made fore you & me. :peace
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People would still take issue with it. Zyphlin also pointed out another group that this would piss off that I didn't even think about: property owners. The notion of the land being "made" would also piss off extremist atheists as well, since it implies a god.

I say keep the Star Spangled Banner. There's no point in changing it.
 
Lokiate said:
People would still take issue with it. Zyphlin also pointed out another group that this would piss off that I didn't even think about: property owners.
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Well, that was why I waited until jp or one of the others suggesting it actually put forth the VERSION they wanted.

The one you typically hear elementry school kids singing leaves some verses off that are preset in other versions. Specifically, some of the more politically motivated verses highlighting the communists leanings of the arthor which cut more to the heart of the intent behind a song that was originally a critical response to "God Bless America".

Does it automatically mean it'd be a bad anthem? Not at all. But to suggest there's nothing controversial about it comparitive to the SSB, God Bless America, or America the Beautiful is ridiculous.
 
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