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    Re: Should students be suspended or expelled for truancy/tardiness?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Then perhaps the kids should act like they are there for learning, rather than quasi-criminals and delinquents.
    Because that's not learned behavior...
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    Re: Should students be suspended or expelled for truancy/tardiness?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lokiate View Post
    Because that's not learned behavior...
    Sure it is. They are learning how to act at home, and once they get in school, nobody has the authority to correct ill-behaved kids in any meaningful way.
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    Re: Should students be suspended or expelled for truancy/tardiness?

    No, seems pretty counterproductive. They should be given ISS.
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    Re: Should students be suspended or expelled for truancy/tardiness?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Actually, what I see is that the parents and the children both deny any problem on their own parts, and the teachers/ school admin are blamed. It's really quite a joke, as the teachers have no power to make the kids behave, and the only people who do have legal authority are abdicating their responsibility.
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    Re: Should students be suspended or expelled for truancy/tardiness?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    When the child does wrong, and the parent does nothing, that's when the parents are at fault. It's up to the parents to see to it that the child goes to school and that he does what he needs to to get an education. If the parents abrogate their responsibility, they yes, absolutely, they should be held accountable.
    And what if the parent tries to make that kid attend? It seems to me that you are just assuming that parents have full control of their kids in every aspect of their life. Now I don't know about you but my parents certainly did not fully control me...even though they tried like hell to do so. So much so that I never got to go out for even a school dance until I was 17...much less anywhere else.
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    Re: Should students be suspended or expelled for truancy/tardiness?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    When the child does wrong, and the parent does nothing, that's when the parents are at fault. It's up to the parents to see to it that the child goes to school and that he does what he needs to to get an education. If the parents abrogate their responsibility, they yes, absolutely, they should be held accountable.
    And then there are cases where because of economic circumstances the child is left to get to school on their own. We hold the parent accountable even when they're working 1.5 jobs to make ends meet? We need to make up our minds as well and decide if shelling out the welfare money is more important then getting the child educated or vice versa because in many cases society can't have both.
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    Re: Should students be suspended or expelled for truancy/tardiness?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    And what if the parent tries to make that kid attend? It seems to me that you are just assuming that parents have full control of their kids in every aspect of their life. Now I don't know about you but my parents certainly did not fully control me...even though they tried like hell to do so. So much so that I never got to go out for even a school dance until I was 17...much less anywhere else.
    And had you become an habitual truant, what would your parents have done?
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    Re: Should students be suspended or expelled for truancy/tardiness?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Side note: I actually kind of find it funny how so many people claim that you shouldn't punish the child for the wrongs of the parent and yet if the child does wrong and knows they did wrong it is perfectly acceptable to just punish the parent.
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    Re: Should students be suspended or expelled for truancy/tardiness?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    And what if the parent tries to make that kid attend? It seems to me that you are just assuming that parents have full control of their kids in every aspect of their life. Now I don't know about you but my parents certainly did not fully control me...even though they tried like hell to do so. So much so that I never got to go out for even a school dance until I was 17...much less anywhere else.
    Such a child will be sent a fine they get to pay off with an after-school job, and/or hours of community service which will cut into their social time. Life will just keep getting harder and harder for that child the more and more they keep ****ing up.

    Go ahead, little teen, and not pay that fine or not show up for community service and see what happens to you next. Your parent won't have to worry about trying to control you while you're sitting in a juvenile detention center attending forced GED classes and mandatory work-release program.
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    Re: Should students be suspended or expelled for truancy/tardiness?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    And had you become an habitual truant, what would your parents have done?
    Grounded me and quite possibly spanked me. And I don't mean swats either. I mean full on hand on bare bottom spankings. Sometimes with belts. Doesn't mean that I wouldn't repeat what I did before. Indeed there were many times that they were at their wits ends in getting me to comply with something or other despite repeated groundings and spankings, standing in corners, taking away privledges/toys.

    When I was about 6 years old I got into the habit of stealing things from stores thanks to my older siblings. My folks spanked me and put me in a corner for an hour the first time I got caught. The second time they even tied my hands behind my back while I was sitting at the corner. I didn't stop stealing until after I had finally gone to jail for it at 18. So it definitately wasn't for my parents lack of trying.

    EDIT PS: Oddly I only skipped school a total of 2 days my entire school career. Don't really know why to be honest. perhaps I just didn't think about doing it.
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