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    Re: Should students be suspended or expelled for truancy/tardiness?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Then it is obvious that the truancy laws MUST be rewritten... I committed "truancy" once, as I remember...walking across a field on a beautiful day...nature was more interesting and I was so young....
    We are working with young humans here...IMO, those who wrote the laws did not know this at the time...
    And, keeping ones children our of public schools (home schooling) is NOT the answer.
    In other words, the schools must be made to be more interesting to the pupils.
    The situation you describe is much different from chronic truants in the public schools. Every now and then, a student deciding to skip a day at school is no issue. It's the ones who refuse to go, disrupt the class frequently, and want special treatment, who are the problems which need to be dealt with. School is a drag for a lot of kids, and I was no exception to that rule, but school is for learning, and for teaching children how to think critically, and move on in life, and not necessarily for their personal enjoyment. As sad as it is, school won't and can't be interesting for every child. Education is a disclipine, and is meant to help you learn to achieve goals and assist you in getting along in the world as it is.
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    Re: Should students be suspended or expelled for truancy/tardiness?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    That sounds all good but wouldn't someone who skips school just skip those days too? I think jail would be a better solution.Jail or juvenile hall would be a better solution since in that situation they would have no choice.
    If they skip the days then juvenile hall would definitely be put into the mix.
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    Re: Should students be suspended or expelled for truancy/tardiness?

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    No, it's absolutely ridiculous. You punish kids who don't come to school by not letting them come to school? What kind of retarded **** is that? Just fail them if they miss a certain number of days.
    This is why we need better law-makers..those who are willing to think/reason in the 21st century, NOT the 16th century.
    The children (and parents) are failing themselves....is this what they want ???

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    Re: Should students be suspended or expelled for truancy/tardiness?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    This is why we need better law-makers..those who are willing to think/reason in the 21st century, NOT the 16th century.
    The children (and parents) are failing themselves....is this what they want ???
    If they fail themselves then that is their problem. Besides, repeating a grade because they missed too many days of school might teach them something about responsibility.
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    Re: Should students be suspended or expelled for truancy/tardiness?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    If they fail themselves then that is their problem. Besides, repeating a grade because they missed too many days of school might teach them something about responsibility.
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    Re: Should students be suspended or expelled for truancy/tardiness?

    I'm not a fan of failing students who miss too many days either. Why should students have to be in school if they can pass into the next grade / pass their classes without being there? That says a lot about the quality of the teachers/class time and the quality of the standards for success in schools. Arbitrarily failing students for poor attendance is not the way to go. A much better system would be one where students fail due to low attendance because they missed assignments or lectures and thus failed or missed their tests. Then it's not arbitrary to fail them, it's completely justified, and it's how schools should work regardless of attendance policy. If a student can miss a third of a semester's school days and still pass, there's something terribly wrong with the school, not the student.
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    Re: Should students be suspended or expelled for truancy/tardiness?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    If they fail themselves then that is their problem. Besides, repeating a grade because they missed too many days of school might teach them something about responsibility.
    Its also our problem
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    Can responsibility be taught ?....by those other than the parents ?

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    Re: Should students be suspended or expelled for truancy/tardiness?

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic Now! View Post
    How do you make it mandatory?
    The old way was to take the entire school year all over again...
    Did this work ?

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    Re: Should students be suspended or expelled for truancy/tardiness?

    Students should be penalized for truancy and tardiness. In the real world you can and will be fired for excessive absences and tardiness because it negatively affects the business for which you work. There is no point in coddling students. Unfortunately, there are few options available to educators and administrators that would not simultaneously penalize educators and administrators. Even expulsion and detention will reflect negatively upon the school in terms of statistics.

    Ultimately, a student, particularly a high school student, is capable of arriving to class on time on all required days. If they fail to meet that expectation there is absolutely no justification for not holding them accountable.
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    Re: Should students be suspended or expelled for truancy/tardiness?

    So, you don't want to come to school, huh! Well, I'll show you. I'll suspend you so you can't come to school.

    Nope. Makes no sense at all, does it?

    I wonder how many of those truant kids' parents are on welfare? perhaps if their welfare payments were jeopardized, they'd see to it that their kids came to school.

    Face it: There is no way you can force anyone to get an education. The best you can do is make it uncomfortable to parents who won't see to it that their kids come to school. Once they're in school, the teachers are liable to wish that they weren't.
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