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    Re: Should students be suspended or expelled for truancy/tardiness?

    I think that the punishment for skipping school intentionally should be mandatory classes to make up the missed time.
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    Re: Should students be suspended or expelled for truancy/tardiness?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I think that the punishment for skipping school intentionally should be mandatory classes to make up the missed time.
    How do you make it mandatory?
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    Re: Should students be suspended or expelled for truancy/tardiness?

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic Now! View Post
    How do you make it mandatory?
    Same way the jailtime bit works, probably.
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    Re: Should students be suspended or expelled for truancy/tardiness?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Same way the jailtime bit works, probably.
    I dont agree with her going to jail, she was an honor student, taking advanced courses, while juggling 2 jobs. If thats not responsibility I dont know what is. I dont agree with compulsory education anyway, I had guys skipping classes to go trawling, dont see whays wrong with that. I do agree that children should be educated to some extent, our current system is lacking in quality.

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    Re: Should students be suspended or expelled for truancy/tardiness?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Expelled or suspended? Certainly not. They're skipping school and all that they want to do is suspend or expell them? Seems awfully counter productive to me. If anything they should be required to spend 2 days extra at the end of the school year for each un-excused absense that they have.
    That sounds all good but wouldn't someone who skips school just skip those days too? I think jail would be a better solution.Jail or juvenile hall would be a better solution since in that situation they would have no choice.
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    Re: Should students be suspended or expelled for truancy/tardiness?

    Quote Originally Posted by marcus903 View Post
    Do you think students should be penalized for truancy/tardiness?

    Here's what I think?

    In my opinion, students should not be penalized for truancy/tardiness. Why? Here's my below explanation:
    Yes, they should be expelled or otherwise penalized, as truancy and tardiness is disruptive to the other students, who are there to learn and graduate from school.

    If a kid absolutely doesn't want to be there, and his parents can't handle him/her enough to ensure that he is not a disruption to the school environment, then take him out of school.
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    Re: Should students be suspended or expelled for truancy/tardiness?

    This is a good one, and one of far reaching consquences..
    The idea or purpose is to stop/prevent criminal behavour..and this MUST be done at a very young age..
    Emotionally, I'd say that those who insist (with their "parents" aid and support) in being truant should be thrown in prison....then forced to attend school....I doubt if this would work....
    But simply expelling the rebel does NOT work and only shifts the costs from the school to the state..
    But, then, I favor that local control of schools is not good.
    It should be state control, with local input, of course.

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    Re: Should students be suspended or expelled for truancy/tardiness?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    When I was the union building rep at my high school for over twenty years, the Union Committee and I undertook what became a crusade. We discovered that the average student in our high school was absent some 32 times a semester. That is not a school year but rather just half of it. That is because the school district had no attendance policy.

    So we lobbied and fought and pushed and shoved and finally after a long period of this, the principal relented and agreed to a firm attendance policy in which any student absent more than 15 times would be given a failing grade in the class. Again, that is not 15 times in an academic year but 15 times in one semester normally constituting between 90 and 95 days.

    So we publicized this to the high heavens in the fall semester and everybody abided by it. And miracle of miracles, attendance improved across the board. But we still had a good one-quarter of the school who exceeded the number and they were given the automatic failing grade. And within days, the principal revoked the principal by administrative fiat and ordered the staff to recalculate the grades as if no policy had been in effect.
    So, there are two sides to this argument....like most all arguments....two or MORE sides...
    The thing to do, IMO, is rebel...The teachers should have (united) refused to do this...
    And the reasons that the "repealing principals" have should be known and published....they may have good reasons.....

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    Re: Should students be suspended or expelled for truancy/tardiness?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    So, there are two sides to this argument....like most all arguments....two or MORE sides...
    The thing to do, IMO, is rebel...The teachers should have (united) refused to do this...
    And the reasons that the "repealing principals" have should be known and published....they may have good reasons.....
    The principal repealed the policy for one reason and one reason only: it raised the level of failures and brought her under the attention of her superiors in administration.

    If the teachers had refused to go along with this, we would have been in violation of our contract and could be sanctioned for it.

    Some people carp that teacher unions only care about money in teachers pockets. This is a clear example where we were trying to get policy changes for the good of students and their education but were stopped by administration.
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    Re: Should students be suspended or expelled for truancy/tardiness?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    The purpose of truancy laws is to force students to stay in school.

    The punishment for violating truancy laws is to force students to stay away from the school.

    The fact that this particular form of pig****ing stupidity is common in the public school system is one more reason my children will never see the inside of one unless I'm threatening them with what will happen if they neglect their studies.
    Then it is obvious that the truancy laws MUST be rewritten... I committed "truancy" once, as I remember...walking across a field on a beautiful day...nature was more interesting and I was so young....
    We are working with young humans here...IMO, those who wrote the laws did not know this at the time...
    And, keeping ones children our of public schools (home schooling) is NOT the answer.
    In other words, the schools must be made to be more interesting to the pupils.

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