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    Re: Do you own yourself (self ownership)?

    Of course I own myself. That is why no one is allowed to steal and enslave me.

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    Re: Do you own yourself (self ownership)?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Of course I own myself. That is why no one is allowed to steal and enslave me.
    But that has happened and can happen again...the chinese may well own you in the future and you can thank GE and the rest of them

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    Re: Do you own yourself (self ownership)?

    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyBurns View Post
    Due to our little debate in another thread figured we could find out what most of you thought.
    No. I do not own myself, and neither should I. I was perchised for a price and am the property of God.

    So are you.

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    Re: Do you own yourself (self ownership)?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Blinders!


    But, hell, I'm talking to two guys (you and Henrin) who think the fleas own the dog. LOL!
    The fleas own the dog? Explain the metaphor.

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    Re: Do you own yourself (self ownership)?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Someone define what "own" means in this context.
    Ownership means that one has the exclusive right to use or control a particular thing.

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    Re: Do you own yourself (self ownership)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aberration View Post
    Yeah it's that same type of BS we hear about implied consent and some obligation to society,
    It is not at all the same thing.

    If you do not like the social contract, you have the power to withdraw from it at any time.
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    Re: Do you own yourself (self ownership)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centinel View Post
    Ownership simply means that one has the exclusive right to use a particular thing. So yes, I would say that we each own our own physical bodies. We each have an exclusive claim on the use of our physical bodies. No other person has a claim on our bodies.
    Perhaps you could be honest enough to knock down the rest of the dominos after somebody accepts that opening axiom of yours?

    So if this belief is accepted, then what then do you believe is the eventual conclusion you must make from it?

    And I bet it has a whole lot to do with decreasing the power of government and taxes.
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    Re: Do you own yourself (self ownership)?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Someone define what "own" means in this context.
    adjective
    1. of, pertaining to, or belonging to oneself or itself (usuallyused after a possessive to emphasize the idea of ownership,interest, or relation conveyed by the possessive): He spentonly his own money.
    2.(used as an intensifier to indicate oneself as the sole agentof some activity or action, preceded by a possessive): Heinsists on being his own doctor.

    Own | Define Own at Dictionary.com
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    Re: Do you own yourself (self ownership)?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    But that has happened and can happen again...the chinese may well own you in the future and you can thank GE and the rest of them
    nah. So long as there is a 2nd Amendment, I'm pretty much theft-proof.

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    Re: Do you own yourself (self ownership)?

    "Every man has a Property in his own Person." - John Locke


    In the Second Treatise, Locke claims that civil society was created for the protection of property. In saying this, he relies on the etymological root of "property," Latin proprius, or what is one's own, including oneself (cf. French propre). Thus, by "property" he means "life, liberty, and estate." Two Treatises of Government - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    I believe in the concept that we each have the natural and moral right to our own selves/body (life) and our labor and can use, sell or barter our labor as a market commidity (liberty) to create value for ourselves and our prosperity. (pursuit of happiness)

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