View Poll Results: Do you own yourself (self ownership)? Should or shouldnt you own yourself?

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    Re: Do you own yourself (self ownership)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    umm, yes, anarchy does provide for the most freedom....but as a matter of practical application, it also allows for the most encroachments upon that freedom.


    to me, Anarchists are a lot like Communists/Socialists...incredibly ignorant of human nature

    Minachism, that's where it's at.. maximum protected freedom.
    Yiou say that, but feudalism came by the way of contracts between land owners and the peasantry against attacks from aggression... I can actually agree with neo liberals in this aspect.

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    Re: Do you own yourself (self ownership)?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Then you're stuck with taxes in one form or another because no government can work without money.
    Did you not see the comment, i am not against government? Or do you just not wish to see what is actually there? Reread my comments, then comment...

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    Re: Do you own yourself (self ownership)?

    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyBurns View Post
    Did you not see the comment, i am not against government? Or do you just not wish to see what is actually there? Reread my comments, then comment...
    My response was to that statement. What part do you think I missed?


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    Or maybe you have no problem with taxation? Is that what you're saying?
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    Re: Do you own yourself (self ownership)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    umm, yes, anarchy does provide for the most freedom....but as a matter of practical application, it also allows for the most encroachments upon that freedom.


    to me, Anarchists are a lot like Communists/Socialists...incredibly ignorant of human nature

    Minachism, that's where it's at.. maximum protected freedom.
    I don't believe a minarch would be stable.
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    Re: Do you own yourself (self ownership)?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    My response was to that statement. What part do you think I missed?


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    Or maybe you have no problem with taxation? Is that what you're saying?
    You said im against taxes right? Did i ever say i was? No... It all depends on what the taxes are used for, taxation is a form of stealing unless all parties agree. Is this true in your opinion? Taking away from from someone with no permission.

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    Re: Do you own yourself (self ownership)?

    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyBurns View Post
    You said im against taxes right? Did i ever say i was? No... It all depends on what the taxes are used for, taxation is a form of stealing unless all parties agree. Is this true in your opinion? Taking away from from someone with no permission.
    When you answer this make sure you think hard, dont want you sounding like haymarket and his unreasonable philosophy

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    Re: Do you own yourself (self ownership)?

    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyBurns View Post
    You said im against taxes right? Did i ever say i was? No... It all depends on what the taxes are used for, taxation is a form of stealing unless all parties agree. Is this true in your opinion? Taking away from from someone with no permission.
    So you're saying "taxes" have to be voluntary? To me that isn't taxation - it's donations.
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    Re: Do you own yourself (self ownership)?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    I don't believe a minarch would be stable.
    Why doesnt minarchy work? Id like to hear your opinion, id like to know your political leaning just for knowledge of different ideology objections to my own.

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    Re: Do you own yourself (self ownership)?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    So you're saying "taxes" have to be voluntary? To me that isn't taxation - it's donations.
    Your so awsome! Exactly voluntary donations are the ultimate goal in libertarianism!!! Instead of forcing morals you actually, eventually see real good morals... You are so awsome to point this out!!!!

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    Re: Do you own yourself (self ownership)?

    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyBurns View Post
    You said im against taxes right? Did i ever say i was? No... It all depends on what the taxes are used for, taxation is a form of stealing unless all parties agree. Is this true in your opinion? Taking away from from someone with no permission.
    And, no, I did not say you were against taxes. Typically Libertarians ARE against taxes so I assumed you were but I did not say that.

    You will note I then specifically asked if you had no problem with taxation.
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