View Poll Results: Do you own yourself (self ownership)? Should or shouldnt you own yourself?

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    Re: Do you own yourself (self ownership)?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    You do have a right to exercise attempted self-preservation, just by nature itself. If you do not believe that, then try to commit an act against my survival. It doesn't matter if you believe in God or the devil. Cross the line into my own personal territory, and one of us will exert his right forcefully.
    I believe you are confusing the basic instinct for survival of the life form with what are known as rights.
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    Re: Do you own yourself (self ownership)?

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    Re: Do you own yourself (self ownership)?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I believe you are confusing the basic instinct for survival of the life form with what are known as rights.
    Survival instinct is a right which trumps rights dictated by men. The government may tell me I have no right to self-defense, but that does not take my right to do so.
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    Re: Do you own yourself (self ownership)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
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    Re: Do you own yourself (self ownership)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Damn, you know you are around some young people who weren't broke growing up when they don't catch a well-timed and spot on K-mart reference.
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    Re: Do you own yourself (self ownership)?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Actually, if you do not have a right that your government recognizes, you don't have it regardless of how many gods or goddesses, deities or other world divinities may or may not be on your particular side.
    Oh, they'll still claim they have it and that somehow, this inalienable right has been taken away. I guess some of them don't know what inalienable means.

    Of course, in reality, they just want a single, universal idea of rights so they don't have to actually defend their views, they can declare them correct by fiat and be done with it.
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    Re: Do you own yourself (self ownership)?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    You do have a right to exercise attempted self-preservation, just by nature itself. If you do not believe that, then try to commit an act against my survival. It doesn't matter if you believe in God or the devil. Cross the line into my own personal territory, and one of us will exert his right forcefully.
    You certainly have an ability to do that and, depending on the circumstances, it is likely to be a legally justified ability. However, cross that line and your supposed "right" goes away.
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    Re: Do you own yourself (self ownership)?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Survival instinct is a right which trumps rights dictated by men. The government may tell me I have no right to self-defense, but that does not take my right to do so.
    Survival instinct isn't a right, it just is. That's like saying bilateral symmetry is a right.
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    Re: Do you own yourself (self ownership)?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Survival instinct is a right which trumps rights dictated by men. The government may tell me I have no right to self-defense, but that does not take my right to do so.
    Again, your use of the word RIGHT is not what is being discussed here.
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