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No One is responsible for what you put in Your Mouth

No one besides yourself is responsible for what you put in your mouth?


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I disagree, because food corporations are notorius for deliberately enticing and addicting its client base. This thread isn't calling for any sort of regulation. It's pointing out that food corporations, the food industry, does have some culpability and responsibility in the obesity/unhealthiness epidemic. They're a part of the problem whether they want to admit it or not imo.

I don't follow: Everything is enhanced and addictive?

I'm not stupid - I know I shouldn't eat my weight in Hot Tamales and drink my worth in Dr Pepper. But I do sometimes anyway.

Liking the flavor of something - or the appeal of something (ice cold - a warm cup)- can be true for any food or drink - healthy or not. My son loves water with a hint of lemon-juice, my daughter like plain cheerios - my other son loves whole-wheat pasta.

We all have our own personal preferences; people only *notice* or think something's wrong when they're less-than-healthy preferences.

No one's looking at strawberies and wonders what was put into them to make them so damn good - because they're healthy.
 
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Is this true?

I disagree, because food corporations are notorius for deliberately enticing and addicting its client base. This thread isn't calling for any sort of regulation. It's pointing out that food corporations, the food industry, does have some culpability and responsibility in the obesity/unhealthiness epidemic. They're a part of the problem whether they want to admit it or not imo.

Yes, once you reach the age of independence, you are the one who is ultimately responsible for what you put in your mouth. No one forces you to buy foods from the grocery store, or from restaurants. You can learn to grow and kill your own food, if it is that important to you.
 
I am 100% responsible for what I eat. I do eat very healthy thou! :)

but on the other hand

I do smoke and...I am also 100% responsible for that! :)


In other words, one is responsible of his own deeds and choices in life, to think otherwise and play the blaming game is no good.
 
I am 100% responsible for what I eat. I do eat very healthy thou! :)

but on the other hand

I do smoke and...I am also 100% responsible for that! :)


In other words, one is responsible of his own deeds and choices in life, to think otherwise and play the blaming game is no good.

Indeed! I was responsible for all my drinking, smoking - and all the snickers . . .as well as the lack of exercise.
 
Is this true?

I disagree, because food corporations are notorius for deliberately enticing and addicting its client base. This thread isn't calling for any sort of regulation. It's pointing out that food corporations, the food industry, does have some culpability and responsibility in the obesity/unhealthiness epidemic. They're a part of the problem whether they want to admit it or not imo.

Yes corporations try to lure you into eating thier product. But in the end it is YOU and no one else that determines what ultimately goes into your mouth. I take full responsibility for what I eat....and smoke. No one but me made the choice to eat what I do and no one but me made the choice to smoke that very first ciggarette.
 
Only if people could take responsibility for their actions instead of blaming others. This is the crux of our society today.
 
Strongly disagree. I can't know every chemical and substance food manufacturers put in food. It's a classical example for delegation of power.
 
The only thing they should be responsible for is if i find glass in my cereal... To think I have to have mommy tell me to eat my greens every day is absurd.

The trouble with the market is selling poison is fine. If you're willing to buy it, or too stupid, or if I'm slick enough to sell it, the market say AOK, and it is your fault you're dead. :thumbs:
 
The trouble with the market is selling poison is fine. If you're willing to buy it, or too stupid, or if I'm slick enough to sell it, the market say AOK, and it is your fault you're dead. :thumbs:


oh pleazzzzzeeeeee .... we are all adults here.......

we eat what we like we smoke what we like way pay or not pay the consequences.....Good grief!!!!! stop the blame game?


selling poison my eye!
 
oh pleazzzzzeeeeee .... we are all adults here.......

we eat what we like we smoke what we like way pay or not pay the consequences.....Good grief!!!!! stop the blame game?


selling poison my eye!
Did I say anything different? You can buy poison. They can sell poison. Where did I say this couldn't happen?
 
poison LOL

my eye.... sorry but that word? poison? is ludicrous


don't like the sound of it?
 
poison LOL

my eye.... sorry but that word? poison? is ludicrous


don't like the sound of it?

Is it? What is the consequences of smoking?
 
The human body and brain were adapted to help monkey-men hunt and gather food in the plains of Africa. Our appreciation for sweet and salty foods were necessary back then, but not so much now that we've invented agribusinesses. Resisting our natural gravitation towards sweets and salts takes up mental energy, since you have to mentally push yourself to eat leafy greens instead of cheeseburgers. This is obviously much harder when society paves the road to cheeseburgers and soda into a four lane highway and leaves the road to leafy greens a small dirt path.

People are going to bitch, but if the government is eventually going to have to foot part of the bill for their medical expenses, they've definitely got an interest in moderating excesses. "A pinch of prevention is worth a pound of cure," or however that adage goes. I say the government should use a light touch, but accept that people profiting from the status quo are going to get pissed off no matter what. We should definitely tweak farm subsidies so that taxpayers aren't subsidizing crap like high fructose corn oil. Public education campaigns are a no brainer. I also wonder about giving tax breaks to people that get a clean bill of health from their doctors.


Only if people could take responsibility for their actions instead of blaming others. This is the crux of our society today.
Fundamental Attribution Error.
 
Enjoying!!!!!!!!

what he heck is this? huh? lol

You deny it is harmful? You can enjoy your poison, but that doesn't make any less poison. And it is a great product. It taste terrible at first. You get to like it. Then it becomes hard to quit. And it steals your life a little at a time. I don't know why everyone doesn't smoke. :shrug:
 
ok Boo...ok ................no more to add here :)
 
ok Boo...ok ................no more to add here :)

Well, you're the one who said I was wrong. I was looking for you to provide something. We're free to harm oursleves, and I have not suggested otherwise. But I will add, a lot of these choices we make before we're adults. Few adults take up the habit. Children do. But that is another issue. ;)
 
Childhood obesity is fast becoming an epidemic. So are children responsible for what they put in their mouths? I don't think they are, especially if they don't have access to healthy food. So should the government step in to protect the life and health of it's most vulnerable citizens? I not only think they should but they have an obligation to do so, especially if it's an epidemic.

Obesity and Overweight for Professionals: Data: Childhood - DNPAO - CDC

Obesity and Overweight for Professionals: Data and Statistics: Adult Obesity - DNPAO - CDC

Imo, adults who live in poor communitees and don't have access to healthy food aren't responsible for what they put in their mouths either. If the only food people have access to is unhealthy, then how can they be held responsible?
 
I laugh at people arguing about whether it's 1/3rd or 2/3rds of the population are obese. As if having over 25% of your population being a bunch of fat asses is somehow something to be proud of. We should be ashamed that we've nurtured a culture of fat gun totting bible loving city folk who wouldn't survive a week in the woods.
 
I laugh at people arguing about whether it's 1/3rd or 2/3rds of the population are obese. As if having over 25% of your population being a bunch of fat asses is somehow something to be proud of. We should be ashamed that we've nurtured a culture of fat gun totting bible loving city folk who wouldn't survive a week in the woods.

Fat people probably would survive a week in the woods since they don't have as much need to hunt.

Otherwise, not all people are the stereotype hatuey.
 
Their is two big problem with it's only people own responsibility.

First what kind of motivation and information are broadcast to the people. My guess is that probably atleast 80 % is for unhealthy food. That if people all the time get information to lure them to eat unhealthy and almost no information how to eat healthy. That can have an affect on people choices.

Also the correctness of the information people get. Take for example Diet Coke. The product is called diet and also market as healthy alternative. But resent studies have shown it can be bad for people having problem with overeating, because diet coke can increase their appetite. So is only people to blame drinking diet coke or is Coca Cola also have a responibility for having over almost 20 years marketed the product as healthy?
 
I laugh at people arguing about whether it's 1/3rd or 2/3rds of the population are obese. As if having over 25% of your population being a bunch of fat asses is somehow something to be proud of. We should be ashamed that we've nurtured a culture of fat gun totting bible loving city folk who wouldn't survive a week in the woods.

I thought the guns would benefit being abandoned in the woods - no?
Or the thick layer of insulatory fat - no?
Not even a week?

But really: it's not the city-dwellers who are suffering from obesity - my husband lost 5lbs when he was in philly: disgusting food and having to walk everywhere = the city-boy diet.

Don't worry! I porked him back up on bbq ribs and wings in no time.

After returning from his foreign world he said 'no wonder why southerners are so fat - all the food is plentiful and tastes damned good'
 
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Their is two big problem with it's only people own responsibility.

First what kind of motivation and information are broadcast to the people. My guess is that probably atleast 80 % is for unhealthy food. That if people all the time get information to lure them to eat unhealthy and almost no information how to eat healthy. That can have an affect on people choices.

Also the correctness of the information people get. Take for example Diet Coke. The product is called diet and also market as healthy alternative. But resent studies have shown it can be bad for people having problem with overeating, because diet coke can increase their appetite. So is only people to blame drinking diet coke or is Coca Cola also have a responibility for having over almost 20 years marketed the product as healthy?

Actually, it's the sweetener in Diet Coke, which means Diet Coke isn't the only product that will have this effect. And look at the second word in that sentence, "recent". If the knowledge is only recently available, and Diet Coke came out will over 30 years ago, how can we say Coke has been misleading? For a long time, a lot of people thought aspartame sweeteners were a great substitute for sugar. More and more we learn that isn't true.

And besides, whether it's Diet Coke or original Coke, if you think either one is "healthy", whether Coke says so or not, I have to question your reasoning skills. Both products are corrosive, for example. In the modern age, there is a wealth of information available on healthy food and healthy eating. And often, healthy eating is no more expensive if you take the time to compare prices.

People make choices. If ignorance is no excuse for breaking the law, I fail to see how ignorance is a valid excuse for abusing our bodies. Further, any parent who thinks HoHos and ice cream after a dinner of friend chicken and mashed potatoes with gravy isn't going to harm their child's health isn't even ignorant...they're just stupid.

True story: I saw a family at Blockbuster....two parents, four children. The youngest was probably two, and even though all of them were overweight, she was the most severe. The little girl literally had to rock from side to side in order to walk, because she had lost so much flexibility due to the amount of fat on her legs and lower abdomen. Her neck was nonexistent, she had fat rolls where her wrists met her hands, and she was breathing like a severe asthmatic. And despite the very obvious problem there, her parents allowed her to eat an entire family size back of crunchy Cheetos while they browsed movie titles. As they were leaving, they also bought her a jumbo-sized box of candy.

That isn't ignorance, that's flat out neglect. In that instance, the government should interfere...and not with training or coaching, but by removing that girl from the home and putting her in the care of nutritional experts and others who can ascertain whether or not a medical condition is causing the insane overeating and respond accordingly.

Most kids don't get that bad. But parents are more than capable of monitoring the weights and eating habits of their children. When they don't, it isn't the government's responsibility to step in for every child with an elevated BMI and start shoveling healthy food into their waiting hands. Hold parents accountable, but don't waste my tax dollars doing what those parents are more than capable of doing on their own. The government has no business raising every child that doesn't meet some arbitrary standard of health or performance, and if we start opening the door to that type of intervention for overweight children it certainly won't stop there.

We can rattle off studies about poor people and poor nutrition, but those in poverty are not the only ones for whom overweight/obese children are a problem. Further, we already subsidize those in poverty through WIC, Food stamps, and several other public and private programs. We don't need more food aid, we need education and stricter guidelines for food stamp usage.

And don't even get me started on BMI as a measure of health. Anybody who doesn't know that BMI alone is a piss poor indication of whether or not one is at an unhealthy weight hasn't been reading the most recent literature.
 
Is this true?

I disagree, because food corporations are notorious for deliberately enticing and addicting its client base. This thread isn't calling for any sort of regulation. It's pointing out that food corporations, the food industry, does have some culpability and responsibility in the obesity/unhealthiness epidemic. They're a part of the problem whether they want to admit it or not IMO.

I must agree...as to the level of responsibility....its there....IMO, they should know better....At one time, people did NOT know any better...."Diets" were horrendous....far too much sugar....all starting with the new born baby...and even before that with the pregnant woman..
Its either ,the big corporations act with care and responsibility, or our government becomes involved..
The choice is yours - corporate America...
 
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