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    Re: No One is responsible for what you put in Your Mouth

    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyBurns View Post
    So am I responsible for myself, in using these substances, knowing they cause health problems? Or is it still the producers fault?
    Both share a blame. Maybe not an equal blame. But let's say I sold you cyanide. I told you it would make you popular with chicks, knowing it was poison, why would you excuse me even if you were dumb enough to buy the lie? responsibility means being responssible, and when you are not, both as consumer and as provider, you are responsible for your actions. I'm never sure why so many see a transaction as only going in one direction.

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    Re: No One is responsible for what you put in Your Mouth

    One of the issues is who determines what is obese. The CDC uses the Body Mass Index (BMI) which was developed in 1832 by Belgian polymath Adolphe Quetelet in his quest to define the "normal man" in terms of everything from his average arm strength to the age at which he marries. This project had nothing to do with obesity.

    I am more concerned with processed food and truth in advertising. Should a manufacturer state that a main ingredient is high fructose corn syrup rather than only show the benefits of the product in an ad? If so, would a more informed consumer still choose a product that is inferior to another one.

    Ultimately, the principal of "let the buyer beware" trumps all and the consumer is responsible for what he puts in his mouth. It is incumbent upon consumers to educate themselves regarding what they are eating.
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    Re: No One is responsible for what you put in Your Mouth

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Both share a blame. Maybe not an equal blame. But let's say I sold you cyanide. I told you it would make you popular with chicks, knowing it was poison, why would you excuse me even if you were dumb enough to buy the lie? responsibility means being responssible, and when you are not, both as consumer and as provider, you are responsible for your actions. I'm never sure why so many see a transaction as only going in one direction.
    If you sold something to me with a lie and knowing that is going to kill me, thats malpractice. Whats your point? Misread it hah, if i know what it is? Ah well good riddance to that moron. Of course I smoke and Ive done multiple substances that could kill me, I believe it was my choice.
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    Re: No One is responsible for what you put in Your Mouth

    I think that as long as companies are honest with the nutrition information and ingredients on their packaging, that's where their responsibility ends.
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    Re: No One is responsible for what you put in Your Mouth

    I can't agree that the consumer is the only person responsible. Food corporations share some culpability. Read books on the food industry and the obesity epidemic, like The Crazy Makers.

    Many businesses use MSG, which is a prime factor in the addiction. If you guys read books on the issue, you'll see how these corporations deliberately find the best ways to ensnare and addict us.

    Time's short today but there's more I'd like to share on this tomorrow. Death by Supermarket is another excellent book to read. The Politics of Fat is another.

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    Re: No One is responsible for what you put in Your Mouth

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Is this true?

    I disagree, because food corporations are notorius for deliberately enticing and addicting its client base. This thread isn't calling for any sort of regulation. It's pointing out that food corporations, the food industry, does have some culpability and responsibility in the obesity/unhealthiness epidemic. They're a part of the problem whether they want to admit it or not imo.
    Unless you've been deliberately decieved as to the contents or effects, yes only you are reponsible for what you eat. You already have a safety mechanism, called choice.

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    Re: No One is responsible for what you put in Your Mouth

    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyBurns View Post
    If you sold something to me with a lie and knowing that is going to kill me, thats malpractice. Whats your point? Misread it hah, if i know what it is? Ah well good riddance to that moron. Of course I smoke and Ive done multiple substances that could kill me, I believe it was my choice.
    I happens daily. When you knowingly seel something that is harmful, you have a responsibility. I don't know why people want to remove responsibility from one side of the equation. Seems if I want to so something ****ty, I better be a company, as they are not responsible for their actions.

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    Re: No One is responsible for what you put in Your Mouth

    How much choice do you have when processed food is more affordable, but loaded with hidden sugar? They took out the fat, but replaced it with sugar to add taste.

    " ...By the mid-80s, health experts such as Professor Philip James, a world-renowned British scientist who was one of the first to identify obesity as an issue, were noticing that people were getting fatter and no one could explain why. The food industry was keen to point out that individuals must be responsible for their own calorie consumption, but even those who exercised and ate low-fat products were gaining weight. In 1966 the proportion of people with a BMI of over 30 (classified as obese) was just 1.2% for men and 1.8% for women. By 1989 the figures had risen to 10.6% for men and 14.0% for women. And no one was joining the dots between HFCS and fat.

    Moreover, there was something else going on. The more sugar we ate, the more we wanted, and the hungrier we became. At New York University, Professor Anthony Sclafani, a nutritionist studying appetite and weight gain, noticed something strange about his lab rats. When they ate rat food, they put on weight normally. But when they ate processed food from a supermarket, they ballooned in a matter of days. Their appetite for sugary foods was insatiable: they just carried on eating..."

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    Re: No One is responsible for what you put in Your Mouth

    I certainly disagree with that. If someone provides a product that is not what it represents... they would be liable for damages to others in my opinion.
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    Re: No One is responsible for what you put in Your Mouth

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    I certainly disagree with that. If someone provides a product that is not what it represents... they would be liable for damages to others in my opinion.
    This is done daily, and the tobbaco industry make an industry off doing it. a

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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