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    Re: No One is responsible for what you put in Your Mouth

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    You know - it was cheaper for me to just make our own babyfood

    It's not very often I use anything that pre-made. . .I tend to make my own - well - everythings (sauce, mixes, seasonings, batter)
    Even with making/growing your own you have to watch out what you are putting on the crops.... After all we are what we eat!!!

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    Re: No One is responsible for what you put in Your Mouth

    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyBurns View Post
    See food found unsafe, such as all the poisons found in the products phys was talking about can be fixed with malpractice lawsuits. Even if the suit did fail, if you got enough publicity, the business would probably be done for. When it comes to air lawsuits can still be used, I posted on another thread talking about self ownership, an individual right, so in a sense you are your own property. Dont mistake this philosophy as me saying people are property to be bought and sold, well unless you so choose to be, such as prostitution. We can all agree air pollution is a health hazard.
    Long and time consuming. An history shows us, as this could always be done, that it does not deter companies. Law suits have been largely ineffective and I think we have enough of those running around. Some clear and appropriate regulation sets a clear standard and does a much better job.

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    Re: No One is responsible for what you put in Your Mouth

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    I disagree, but solely on the basis that the consumer has to be able to inform themselves about what they're eating in order for you to say they're responsible for it. That isn't always possible, currently.

    If that were always possible - and easy - then yes, people would be responsible for what they eat. But they can't be responsible if they can't inform themselves.
    It has never been easier to inform ourselves. In the last 20 years it has become a thousand times easier.

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    Re: No One is responsible for what you put in Your Mouth

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    It has never been easier to inform ourselves. In the last 20 years it has become a thousand times easier.
    In some respects yes, but there is some deception and misinformation running around out there, and it can cloud issues.

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    Re: No One is responsible for what you put in Your Mouth

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    In some respects yes, but there is some deception and misinformation running around out there, and it can cloud issues.
    The generally open and unregulated style of the interwebs is both it's blessing and it's curse...
    Sure, you can find almost any info out there - but at the same time, you can find almost any false info out there.
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    Re: No One is responsible for what you put in Your Mouth

    There may be, but ignorance is a really a weak excuse nowadays because the information is so much easier to access. It's common general knowledge that processed foods are less healthy than natural foods, and that foods that taste awesome are, almost universally, unhealthy in any sort of excess.

    Thirty seconds of searching for unhealthy ingredients found in food will enlighten a person. Find out about high fructose corn syrup, hydrogenated oils, monosodium glutamate, benzoate preservatives, artificial sweeteners, artificial flavorings, artificial colors. Learn about CAFOs and GMOs. It's super easy. Watch The Future of Food for free on Hulu.

    It's all right there at our fingertips. The people who don't know are avoiding and ignoring and subconsciously justifying their habits or addictions to bad food. It's not because they don't know and can't find out. It's because they don't want to know or find out.

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    Re: No One is responsible for what you put in Your Mouth

    Not to mention, ingredients and their percentages are listed now (and have been for some time). Manufacturing and processing are no mystery.

    It's like smoking, is there a single person on the planet who doesn't know now that smoking is bad for them? Is there a single smoker alive that can honestly say they didn't know it was bad for them? No, people can and do choose to engage in activities, consume things, they know are "bad" for them. The question becomes, do we allow government to take that choice away.

    We're not talking about manufacturers or growers and the choices they make (commerce is regulated as it should be). We're taking about the choices of the end user and whether the end user or the government should make the choice.

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    Re: No One is responsible for what you put in Your Mouth

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    It's like smoking, is there a single person on the planet who doesn't know now that smoking is bad for them? Is there a single smoker alive that can honestly say they didn't know it was bad for them? No, people can and do choose to engage in activities, consume things, they know are "bad" for them. The question becomes, do we allow government to take that choice away.
    The question has become "do we continue to let government socialize to others the cost of people's self-sabotaging decisions?"

    There's really no problem with government limiting our choices. The problem is that we have all sorts of choices and then can make someone else pay for its consequences (if those consequences are negative).

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    Re: No One is responsible for what you put in Your Mouth

    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyBurns View Post
    Lol first of all why do we use HFCS? Eh yea i know whoops didnt think about that.
    WTF is that supposed to mean? You realize that corn lobbies receive billions of dollars in taxpayer money every year, right?

    Apple juice, suing the crap out of them, thats malpractice.
    You think that lawsuits are the answer? Really?

    Thats why I buy bottled water lol, i dont think the water where i live is safe at all. When im hungover, with no bottled drinks ill drink it though.
    Why u get hungover? Filtered water accomplishes much the same as bottled water does.

    Ummm chicagos drinking water is government ran...
    Oh of course, that automatically makes it worse.
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    Re: No One is responsible for what you put in Your Mouth

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    WTF is that supposed to mean? You realize that corn lobbies receive billions of dollars in taxpayer money every year, right?
    Thats my point, subsidized corn, and high tariffs on foreign sugar, causing high prices on sugar. Now we use more HFCS due to its cheapness. Government unintentionally caused this, now regulation is the only way to fix it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    You think that lawsuits are the answer? Really?
    You have a deadly poison in my apple juice, my kids drink that!!! Dont think i can win that lawsuit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Why u get hungover? Filtered water accomplishes much the same as bottled water does.
    Why get hungover? Excessive drinking of course haha. There are multiple types of water and different methods of filtration. As i said you wouldnt want to drink the water where im from. Though i dont think ill die, maybe it is unhealthy eh oh well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Oh of course, that automatically makes it worse.
    You want more government regulation because a government facility is not providing a quality service. Thats my point.

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