View Poll Results: Most anti-libertarian President?

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  • Abraham Lincoln

    10 18.18%
  • Woodrow Wilson

    6 10.91%
  • Franklin Roosevelt

    20 36.36%
  • Theodore Roosevelt

    0 0%
  • Lyndon Johnson

    1 1.82%
  • George W. Bush

    7 12.73%
  • Richard Nixon

    2 3.64%
  • Herbert Hoover

    2 3.64%
  • Barack Obama

    4 7.27%
  • Other

    3 5.45%
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    Re: Most anti-libertarian Presidents

    Kinda shocked wilson only had one vote(before I voted) it's hard to find a more deleterious and malignant cancer than Wilson.

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    Re: Most anti-libertarian Presidents

    Woodrow Wilson would beat out FDR form a philosophical point of view. Wilson was a full blown unvarnished "screw the public" fascist. FDR was a "democratic-representive" varnished fascist. FDR went futher in part due to what Wilson began.
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    Re: Most anti-libertarian Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Serious View Post
    Woodrow Wilson would beat out FDR form a philosophical point of view. Wilson was a full blown unvarnished "screw the public" fascist. FDR was a "democratic-representive" varnished fascist. FDR went futher in part due to what Wilson began.
    You can take everything FDR did a and multiply it several times over and it still would not amount to the incredible damage done to the US for just the fed alone.

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    Re: Most anti-libertarian Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyBurns View Post
    I love individuals such as yourself! They try to grasp reality, yet somehow fail to grasp that which is just in front of them! Okay, i gather your not a lazy-fairy tale supporter. What economic policy do you support? Please answer the question and dont spit out ignorant philosophies... The last part of your little rant holds no validility... Next time you have something worth reading please feel free to respond, until then please refrain from wasting other peoples times... Though when i say this, you have the freedom of speech, the only thing im against in this aspect is your ignorance of the subjects of which you speak.
    See how libertarians become authoritarian when someone is not convinced of their sincerity. You say "please" this and "please" that, but what I really hear is "I demand you give me an answer that pleases me because it's all about me." People are not ignorant of how a Libertarian will respond when his selfish fantasy is threatened.
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    Re: Most anti-libertarian Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by PrometheusBound View Post
    See how libertarians become authoritarian when someone is not convinced of their sincerity. You say "please" this and "please" that, but what I really hear is "I demand you give me an answer that pleases me because it's all about me." People are not ignorant of how a Libertarian will respond when his selfish fantasy is threatened.
    nowhere does he claim to have any authority over you, so your reply was nonsensical, which seems to be a common theme for you

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    Re: Most anti-libertarian Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    That is just stupid. There is a difference between owning yourself and someone owning you.
    What is stupid is the inability of you to to see that somebody else owning you or you 'owning yourself' both treats you as property that can be owned.

    Of course, I realize that you really do not believe that nonsense and its all just the typical right libertarian nonsense to justify not paying taxes or obeying the laws.
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    Re: Most anti-libertarian Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by Lokiate View Post
    Ideological extremists, huh? I suppose Locke was pretty radical for his time. Even Jefferson admitted that the ownership of slaves was morally reprehensible. Plus, I didn't see you point anything out, you just yelled at some guy, and claimed victory. Whoop-dee-****ing-doo.
    Jefferson? The guy who owned slaves and cried himself to sleep over it? The one who said that all men were created equal but kept hundreds as property without any rights - equal or otherwise?

    And getting government out of our society is indeed an extremist agenda. And I am please to expose it at every opportunity.
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    Re: Most anti-libertarian Presidents

    Let's see...War on Terror...War on Drugs....Neo-Con interventionism... warrant less wiretaps...pumping the Fed....ignoring Congress...bailouts...GITMO..killing American citizens with no due process....

    Easy...George W. Bush and Barack H. Obama are a dead heat tie.

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    Re: Most anti-libertarian Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Jefferson? The guy who owned slaves and cried himself to sleep over it? The one who said that all men were created equal but kept hundreds as property without any rights - equal or otherwise?
    Yes, which is why I pointed him out several times throughout this thread.

    And getting government out of our society is indeed an extremist agenda. And I am please to expose it at every opportunity.
    Which makes you an idiot, since nowhere have I ever stated that we need to get rid government.
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    Re: Most anti-libertarian Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by Lokiate View Post
    Yes, which is why I pointed him out several times throughout this thread.


    Which makes you an idiot, since nowhere have I ever stated that we need to get rid government.
    Do you pretend that you are the sole libertarian putting forth views in this world? Do you believe that it is only your views and your beliefs and your agenda that is being considered when one talks about libertarians?
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