View Poll Results: Most anti-libertarian President?

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  • Abraham Lincoln

    10 18.18%
  • Woodrow Wilson

    6 10.91%
  • Franklin Roosevelt

    20 36.36%
  • Theodore Roosevelt

    0 0%
  • Lyndon Johnson

    1 1.82%
  • George W. Bush

    7 12.73%
  • Richard Nixon

    2 3.64%
  • Herbert Hoover

    2 3.64%
  • Barack Obama

    4 7.27%
  • Other

    3 5.45%
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    Re: Most anti-libertarian Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    That was not your claim and you know it. Nice try to move the goal posts to a more friendly field though.

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    So please, do present us the proof that a majority of American believe in this idea that you own yourself.
    no goalposts were moved, you are simply ignorant of the concepts inherent to, and surrounding, self ownership.

    tell me, Haymarket... who possesses sovereignty over you, your thoughts, your body, your actions?


    it's obvious that Haymarket is in charge of Haymarket from my perspective, but seeing as you reject that perspective out of hand, I'd like to know your answer as to who holds supreme sovereignty over you.

    I'm genuinely curious as to who controls the whole being that is Haymarket.

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    Re: Most anti-libertarian Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Baloney.

    Your body is not owned by anybody. You fail right out of the gate with a false premise. Everything that comes after is thus bunk.
    so you don't control you, and nobody else controls you.

    interesting theory you have there... where did this concept of no-ownership come from?

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    Re: Most anti-libertarian Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Quite to the contrary. You are a very loud and public advocate for what would destroy the USA and its people. That is about as unpatriotic as one can get without leaving the nation to join an enemy nation.
    I'm confident you believe that.

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    Re: Most anti-libertarian Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by Centinel View Post
    This admission explains quite a lot. Thanks, now I understand.
    Does the term SOCRATIC METHOD mean anything to you?
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    Re: Most anti-libertarian Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    I'm confident you believe that.
    Every way every day. No doubt about it.
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    Re: Most anti-libertarian Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the only people destroyed by freedom are little children unable to function as adults and the would be nannies who derive their wealth and power from pandering to and controlling those little children
    the guy fails to understand the basics such as self ownership, and you expect him to understand the more advanced stuff like freedom?

    fat chance , my friend, fat chance.

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    Re: Most anti-libertarian Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    so you don't control you, and nobody else controls you.

    interesting theory you have there... where did this concept of no-ownership come from?
    Property is owned. A person is NOT property.

    Your premise is a false one.
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    Re: Most anti-libertarian Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    the guy fails to understand the basics such as self ownership, and you expect him to understand the more advanced stuff like freedom?

    fat chance , my friend, fat chance.
    There is nothing BASIC about it. Its a false premise.
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    Re: Most anti-libertarian Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Every way every day. No doubt about it.
    correct, there is no doubt you believe it.

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    Re: Most anti-libertarian Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Property is owned. A person is NOT property.

    Your premise is a false one.
    I beg to differ sir. People get owned here all the time-indeed pwned as the case may be

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