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  • Warren G. Harding

    4 5.06%
  • Andrew Johnson

    5 6.33%
  • James Buchanan

    7 8.86%
  • Herbert Hoover

    2 2.53%
  • Franklin Pierce

    2 2.53%
  • Ulysses S. Grant

    2 2.53%
  • Franklin Roosevelt

    9 11.39%
  • Barack Obama

    12 15.19%
  • George W. Bush

    21 26.58%
  • Other

    15 18.99%
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    Re: Worst US President?

    I voted for FDR. No other President has ever done as much as he did to undermine the Constitution, and the principles upon which it was written. he set the stage for the federal government to grow outside the bounds that the Constitution set for it, and into the bloated, out-of-control monstrosity that it now is. I suppose it can be argued that some other Presidents since him have done more damage than he did directly, but I would say that they only did so by building upon the precedents that were set under FDR.


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    Eh, I'm no history buff so I'm left with those presidents in my lifetime. It's almost a tossup between Jimmy Carter and George W. Bush, but since Bush had twice as long to **** things up and got us into two decades-long wars, George W. has my vote.
    some have argued that if Carter had squashed the violation of our sovereignty we'd have far less cockroaches pissing on our boots over there now
    I'll argue more specifically along these lines. The very best ally that we ever had in the Muslim-dominated part of the world, up to that point, was the Shah of Iran. Carter betrayed and abandoned the Shah, allowing him to be overthrown, and that nation taken over by a gang of radical Muslims who were the forbears of all the Islamic terrorist groups that have troubled us since then. These terrorists never before controlled an entire nation and its resources, until they controlled Iran. From there, they have spread like a foul disease across that part of the world.

    All the trouble that we have had since then with Islamic-based terrorism all stems from this one failure on Carter's part. Had he continued to support the Shah; or failing that, if he had taken strong military action to completely exterminate the Khomeniacs before they had the chance to spread their disease beyond the borders of Iran, none of the Islamic terrorism that we've been fighting ever since then would have happened. The 9/11 attacks would not have happened, and we would never have had any reason to have gone to war in that region.

    Islamic terrorism is like a cancer, that Carter had the chance to destroy while it was still an isolated, discrete tumor. Instead, he allowed it to metastasize and spread, and now, almost four decades later, we are still suffering the increasing consequences of this failure.
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    Re: Worst US President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    I voted for FDR. No other President has ever done as much as he did to undermine the Constitution, and the principles upon which it was written. he set the stage for the federal government to grow outside the bounds that the Constitution set for it, and into the bloated, out-of-control monstrosity that it now is. I suppose it can be argued that some other Presidents since him have done more damage than he did directly, but I would say that they only did so by building upon the precedents that were set under FDR.




    I'll argue more specifically along these lines. The very best ally that we ever had in the Muslim-dominated part of the world, up to that point, was the Shah of Iran. Carter betrayed and abandoned the Shah, allowing him to be overthrown, and that nation taken over by a gang of radical Muslims who were the forbears of all the Islamic terrorist groups that have troubled us since then. These terrorists never before controlled an entire nation and its resources, until they controlled Iran. From there, they have spread like a foul disease across that part of the world.

    All the trouble that we have had since then with Islamic-based terrorism all stems from this one failure on Carter's part. Had he continued to support the Shah; or failing that, if he had taken strong military action to completely exterminate the Khomeniacs before they had the chance to spread their disease beyond the borders of Iran, none of the Islamic terrorism that we've been fighting ever since then would have happened. The 9/11 attacks would not have happened, and we would never have had any reason to have gone to war in that region.

    Islamic terrorism is like a cancer, that Carter had the chance to destroy while it was still an isolated, discrete tumor. Instead, he allowed it to metastasize and spread, and now, almost four decades later, we are still suffering the increasing consequences of this failure.
    that is pretty much the game set match on that issue

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    Re: Worst US President?

    FDR by a landslide.

    He was probably the worst human being ever named to the presidency. You could write thousands and thousands of pages depicting his black heart.

    I feel the way in which he obtained his third term alone speaks volumes about the type of person he was - a power hungry monster.

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    Re: Worst US President?

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    FDR by a landslide.

    He was probably the worst human being ever named to the presidency. You could write thousands and thousands of pages depicting his black heart.

    I feel the way in which he obtained his third term alone speaks volumes about the type of person he was - a power hungry monster.
    My early prediction seems right on the money.
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    Re: Worst US President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    I don't recall but did Lincoln continually blame Buchanan for the conditions he inherited?
    You mean like Bush blamed Clinton for his whole first term?


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    Re: Worst US President?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    My early prediction seems right on the money.
    I've actually had a change of heart.

    For a long time, I had Wilson as the worst, followed by FDR.

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    Re: Worst US President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Well, true. It wasn't just Buchanan. We had several bad presidents in a row right when we needed nothing less than top-of-the-line. Thank god we got the man for the hour during the Civil War, however.
    Lincoln would have provoked the Civil War if elected at any time between 1789 and 1860. The South seceded because of his election.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    I voted for FDR. No other President has ever done as much as he did to undermine the Constitution, and the principles upon which it was written. he set the stage for the federal government to grow outside the bounds that the Constitution set for it, and into the bloated, out-of-control monstrosity that it now is. I suppose it can be argued that some other Presidents since him have done more damage than he did directly, but I would say that they only did so by building upon the precedents that were set under FDR.




    I'll argue more specifically along these lines. The very best ally that we ever had in the Muslim-dominated part of the world, up to that point, was the Shah of Iran. Carter betrayed and abandoned the Shah, allowing him to be overthrown, and that nation taken over by a gang of radical Muslims who were the forbears of all the Islamic terrorist groups that have troubled us since then. These terrorists never before controlled an entire nation and its resources, until they controlled Iran. From there, they have spread like a foul disease across that part of the world.

    All the trouble that we have had since then with Islamic-based terrorism all stems from this one failure on Carter's part. Had he continued to support the Shah; or failing that, if he had taken strong military action to completely exterminate the Khomeniacs before they had the chance to spread their disease beyond the borders of Iran, none of the Islamic terrorism that we've been fighting ever since then would have happened. The 9/11 attacks would not have happened, and we would never have had any reason to have gone to war in that region.

    Islamic terrorism is like a cancer, that Carter had the chance to destroy while it was still an isolated, discrete tumor. Instead, he allowed it to metastasize and spread, and now, almost four decades later, we are still suffering the increasing consequences of this failure.
    Terrorism is the military branch of jihadist OPEC. So it was Nixon who blew the chance to nip it in the bud by occupying the oilfields to stop the 1973 embargo, which he wanted to do but was forced to back down. More effectively defining jihad as "any time Muslims have the power to wage it," it lasted from the beginning of Islam until September 11,1683, after which the Polish king, John Sobieski, extinguished their fire at Vienna.

    Shocked that nobody has pointed out that it was the same date that Al Qaida chose? Coincidence or not, it still should have been pointed out. Suspicious? Don't be. There are NO! powerful interests behind letting the Arabs gouge us. That's what the media are paid to say, so it must be worth something to say it. Money talks, and that's all you hear.
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    Re: Worst US President?

    I can't help but place this question in the context of today...considering where we were when he left office, the untruths, and the changes in our system.....I need to choose "W'.

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    Re: Worst US President?

    Quote Originally Posted by PrometheusBound View Post
    Lincoln would have provoked the Civil War if elected at any time between 1789 and 1860. The South seceded because of his election.
    Oh not this again...The South was just looking for an excuse to go. Lincoln's perfectly legal, perfectly legitimate election was just their excuse.
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