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  • Warren G. Harding

    4 5.06%
  • Andrew Johnson

    5 6.33%
  • James Buchanan

    7 8.86%
  • Herbert Hoover

    2 2.53%
  • Franklin Pierce

    2 2.53%
  • Ulysses S. Grant

    2 2.53%
  • Franklin Roosevelt

    9 11.39%
  • Barack Obama

    12 15.19%
  • George W. Bush

    21 26.58%
  • Other

    15 18.99%
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    Re: Worst US President?

    I know why President Obama was included, but really he shouldn't have been. You just can't evaluate a sitting president in terms of best and worst. It takes some cooling down and a few decades for the real story to be seen beyond the partisan flak. Nixon is a great example.

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    Re: Worst US President?

    in terms of impotence-Johnson and Harding are close

    In terms of corrupt administrations-Grant and Harding again

    In terms of long lasting damage to the USA, FDR and Wilson

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    Re: Worst US President?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    I know why President Obama was included, but really he shouldn't have been. You just can't evaluate a sitting president in terms of best and worst. It takes some cooling down and a few decades for the real story to be seen beyond the partisan flak. Nixon is a great example.
    I agree that it does, but other people on here don't, and I wanted to put up the options most likely to get chosen.
    There should be Instant Runoff Voting

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    Re: Worst US President?

    Interesting you didn't put Nixon on there as an option. Nixon actually was definitely not the worst, but even 10 years ago, he would have probably won the poll. Certainly 20 years ago he would have. I guess time heals all wounds.
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    Re: Worst US President?

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    Interesting you didn't put Nixon on there as an option. Nixon actually was definitely not the worst, but even 10 years ago, he would have probably won the poll. Certainly 20 years ago he would have. I guess time heals all wounds.
    I was actually going to put Nixon on there, but I decided to remove him when I remembered I needed to include an "other" option. I don't think he was close to the worst president though in terms of policy, just gets a bad rap due to Watergate.
    There should be Instant Runoff Voting

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    Re: Worst US President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Anagram View Post
    I was actually going to put Nixon on there, but I decided to remove him when I remembered I needed to include an "other" option. I don't think he was close to the worst president though in terms of policy, just gets a bad rap due to Watergate.
    Agreed, that and his propensity for taping got him in trouble (he cursed a lot - a much bigger thing back then). But that's why he makes such a great example. In another thread I noted that he was the one who made the executive order banning work on bio weapons. That's something we never had the chance to know (classified), until another president undid it (Clinton), decades later.

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    Re: Worst US President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Anagram View Post
    I was actually going to put Nixon on there, but I decided to remove him when I remembered I needed to include an "other" option. I don't think he was close to the worst president though in terms of policy, just gets a bad rap due to Watergate.
    Yeah. I agree. His administration accomplished a lot on foreign policy, but was quite oppressive domestically. IMO Watergate was pretty minor compared to cointelpro and the really shady infiltration of lots of peaceful domestic political organizations. But what really crucified him politically with Watergate is that he very publicly and arrogantly took a "I'm the president, the law doesn't apply to me" stance. Certainly not the worst though. He made breakthroughs with China that nobody thought were possible. Although really that's more Kissinger.
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    Re: Worst US President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Anagram View Post
    We have a poll for the best, which has mostly devolved into a thread about the worst president anyway.

    My personal choice is Andrew Johnson, who massively screwed up Reconstruction and whose effects were worse than some other incompetent presidents around the time.

    Options chosen from those who are traditionally seen as the worst presidents, along with some names mentioned by DP members in the other thread.
    My vote is Barack Obama. He must be the biggest finger pointer in the entire history of the White House. He also golfs too much.

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    Re: Worst US President?

    One quibble - the "infiltration of lots of peaceful domestic political organizations" - that was Hoover and started well before Nixon took office. J. Edgar had the nuclear option to hold over multiple presidents, including Nixon.

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    Re: Worst US President?

    Carter and Obama ... worst ever!

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