View Poll Results: Who Was the Best US President?

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  • Abraham Lincoln

    15 14.15%
  • Franklin Roosevelt

    26 24.53%
  • George Washington

    10 9.43%
  • Thomas Jefferson

    9 8.49%
  • Theodore Roosevelt

    6 5.66%
  • Woodrow Wilson

    1 0.94%
  • Andrew Jackson

    2 1.89%
  • Harry Truman

    0 0%
  • Lyndon Johnson

    2 1.89%
  • Other (please list below)

    35 33.02%
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    Re: Best US President

    For once I actually agree with SgtRock.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Best US President

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    For once I actually agree with SgtRock.
    As do I, although I don't think anything Zgoldsmith said is technically wrong. It did allow for western expansion and I believe it was popular with the people at the time, although it was definitely beyond cruel and not too much of a stretch to label genocide. I didn't see Z actually come out and endorse it specifically though.
    There should be Instant Runoff Voting

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    Re: Best US President

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    he started us down the road to a welfare socialist state where the balance of power between the federal government and the states was destroyed permanently. Most of the welfare income redistribution garbage that your party worships and derives power from could never have happened but for FDR's actions
    Yes because we all know for certain what the founders wanted in FDR's time and in our current situation. You do realize that not all of the founding fathers werent modern day "libertarians".


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    Re: Best US President

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    President Lincoln by far. Our country would not be as free without him.
    I agree and voted Lincoln. He saw our nation through the most challenging period in our history. He saved the Union and freed the slaves. And yes, I know the Civil War was not just about slavery. I am also a fan of his leadership style in that he surrounded himself with people who often disagreed with him. Too many leaders surround themselves with "yes men".

    There are a few great Presidents in the poll.

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    Re: Best US President

    This was interesting I thought.

    "The Murray-Blessing 1982 survey[21] asked historians whether they were liberal or conservative on domestic, social and economic issues."

    There was actually very little difference in the top 3 picks as the best presidents by both the conservative and liberal historians.

    The liberal historians picked as their top 3,

    #1 Lincoln
    #2 FDR
    #3 Washington

    The conservative historians picked as their top 3

    #1 Lincoln
    #2 Washington
    #3 FDR

    Historical rankings of Presidents of the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Last edited by Catawba; 06-13-12 at 03:57 AM.
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    Re: Best US President

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    This was interesting I thought.

    "The Murray-Blessing 1982 survey[21] asked historians whether they were liberal or conservative on domestic, social and economic issues."

    There was actually very little difference in the top 3 picks as the best presidents by both the conservative and liberal historians.

    The liberal historians picked as their top 3,

    Lincoln
    FDR
    Washington

    The conservative historians picked as their top 3

    Lincoln
    Washington
    FDR

    Historical rankings of Presidents of the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    And if FDR was a president today he would be a socialist communist marxist fascist.....
    I think the vast majority of conservatives dont see that FDR was actually a lot more left than Obama...


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    Re: Best US President

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    And if FDR was a president today he would be a socialist communist marxist fascist.....
    I think the vast majority of conservatives dont see that FDR was actually a lot more left than Obama...
    Yes, the survey shows us how just how far conservatives have moved to the right since 1982.
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    Re: Best US President

    Quote Originally Posted by NotEliTanenbaum View Post
    Who do you think was the best US President?
    Ronald Reagan

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    Re: Best US President

    Quote Originally Posted by proud2Bcatholic View Post
    Ronald Reagan
    I would agree that he is the best in our lifetime, but hardly the best ever. There is much I like about Reagan, and little that I dislike. However, had Reagan had been tasked with a difficult period of time, rather than one of the easier ones, I do not believe his macro management style would have been suited well for such a critical period of time.

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    Re: Best US President

    Andrew Jackson, without a doubt. George Washington being a close second.

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