View Poll Results: Who Was the Best US President?

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  • Abraham Lincoln

    15 14.15%
  • Franklin Roosevelt

    26 24.53%
  • George Washington

    10 9.43%
  • Thomas Jefferson

    9 8.49%
  • Theodore Roosevelt

    6 5.66%
  • Woodrow Wilson

    1 0.94%
  • Andrew Jackson

    2 1.89%
  • Harry Truman

    0 0%
  • Lyndon Johnson

    2 1.89%
  • Other (please list below)

    35 33.02%
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    Re: Best US President

    Quote Originally Posted by Anagram View Post
    Love Polk in your list. Good president that people tend to forget about.
    He got us everything west of the Louisiana Purchase. Manifest Destiny at its finest.
    On the outside, trickling down on the insiders.
    We won't live free until the 1% live in fear.
    Hey, richboys! Imagine the boot of democracy stomping on your faces, forever.

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    Re: Best US President

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    voting certainly doesn't give me control over my actions. you annoying progressives continue to use your vote to control more and more of my actions in the economic sphere while the annoying social conservatvies use their vote to control more of my actions in the social sphere.

    so as I first stated, I cherish liberty over democracy. Democracy can rightly be described as two wolves and a sheep deciding on dinner.
    Anything can happen with only three voters. Limiting the number of voters constitutes a republic, so you are contradicting yourself in opposing democracy. By voters I mean those who directly vote on issues instead of being limited to picking pre-owned candidates to do all their voting for them.
    On the outside, trickling down on the insiders.
    We won't live free until the 1% live in fear.
    Hey, richboys! Imagine the boot of democracy stomping on your faces, forever.

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    Re: Best US President

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    You canít claim any sides were switched as the radical republicans werenít for the incorporation of the bill of rights as we know it today and certainly would not of been in favor of the civil rights legislation that stripped previously held employer rights
    Since the 1960s, starting with the sons of a Wall Street kleptocrat, the Democrats have followed in the jackbooted footsteps of the Reconstruction Republicans.
    On the outside, trickling down on the insiders.
    We won't live free until the 1% live in fear.
    Hey, richboys! Imagine the boot of democracy stomping on your faces, forever.

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    Re: Best US President

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    So you have no problem with Jackson telling his troops to kill all the women and children to complete the extermination? Don't get me wrong, I love my country. I am just about as patriotic a person as you will meet. But the genocide of the indigenous peoples of America and slavery are two severely wrong points in our history and the sooner we face that the better. That includes recognising Andrew Jackson for the genocidal murderer that he was.

    btw, you can call Godwinn all you want but in this case the reference to Hitler is based in fact.
    Judging by the way they exterminated other Indian tribes and isolated White settlers, the Indians would have treated us even worse than we did them if they had been the ones with superior weapons. Also, they wouldn't have built a productive civilization like we did when that necessary fight to the finish was over.
    On the outside, trickling down on the insiders.
    We won't live free until the 1% live in fear.
    Hey, richboys! Imagine the boot of democracy stomping on your faces, forever.

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    Re: Best US President

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    most of that involves state vs federal powers. military is an obvious federal power. income redistribution and other attempts to gain power by creating "fairness" is not
    gay marriage is not a federal matter, nor is abortion
    Regardless of your motives for favoring big government in those areas, you're just confirming what I said.
    Total tax rates- People living in poverty: 16.2%. The median American: 27%. Working people who make over $140k/year: 31%. The top 1%: 30%. Super rich investors: around 15%. Help the democrats retake the house.

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    Re: Best US President

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    Regardless of your motives for favoring big government in those areas, you're just confirming what I said.
    more army might cost more but it doesn't infringe on our rights any more than a medium sized army

    ever heard millions for defense but not a penny for tribute?

    and your inability to understand the boundaries of federal authority is a given but still disappointing

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    Re: Best US President

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    more army might cost more but it doesn't infringe on our rights any more than a medium sized army
    It means higher taxes. It means more power for the government. If you don't think either of those things are infringements on our rights then your whole position on everything seems to be falling apart, no?
    Total tax rates- People living in poverty: 16.2%. The median American: 27%. Working people who make over $140k/year: 31%. The top 1%: 30%. Super rich investors: around 15%. Help the democrats retake the house.

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    Re: Best US President

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    It means higher taxes. It means more power for the government. If you don't think either of those things are infringements on our rights then your whole position on everything seems to be falling apart, no?
    I am not an anarchist and I support government programs that are properly constitutional. The military is one and while I believe money is wasted, the function is legitimate. Welfare redistribution is not legitimate

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    Re: Best US President

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I am not an anarchist and I support government programs that are properly constitutional. The military is one and while I believe money is wasted, the function is legitimate. Welfare redistribution is not legitimate
    Well obviously you understand that both are constitutional. So you're just saying that you like big government when it is in the form of killing people, but you dislike big government when it is in the form of helping people. Just like I said.
    Total tax rates- People living in poverty: 16.2%. The median American: 27%. Working people who make over $140k/year: 31%. The top 1%: 30%. Super rich investors: around 15%. Help the democrats retake the house.

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    Re: Best US President

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    Well obviously you understand that both are constitutional. So you're just saying that you like big government when it is in the form of killing people, but you dislike big government when it is in the form of helping people. Just like I said.
    the military has always been constitutional. the stuff that you love only became "constitutional" due to the dishonest machinations of FDR's lapdogs. And only a fool can really believe that welfare socialism helps anyone other than the rich dem masters who use it to buy power. Making people dependent on government no more helps them than a dealer helps the addicts

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