View Poll Results: Who Was the Best US President?

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  • Abraham Lincoln

    15 14.15%
  • Franklin Roosevelt

    26 24.53%
  • George Washington

    10 9.43%
  • Thomas Jefferson

    9 8.49%
  • Theodore Roosevelt

    6 5.66%
  • Woodrow Wilson

    1 0.94%
  • Andrew Jackson

    2 1.89%
  • Harry Truman

    0 0%
  • Lyndon Johnson

    2 1.89%
  • Other (please list below)

    35 33.02%
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    Re: Best US President

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    The Founding Fathers themselves took measures which increased the strength of the national government. The Federalist Party was built on the very idea of a strong national government. Even Thomas Jefferson, who was strongly opposed to the idea of a strong national government, took measures while president which were thought of as unconstitutional at the time and were also contradictory to his beliefs of limited government (see: Louisiana Purchase). Oh, and John Adams tried the very same court packing scheme that FDR did.

    that has no relevance to the fact that FDR destroyed the balance between the states and the federal government and used the commerce clause as a carte blanch grant of federal power

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    Re: Best US President

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that has no relevance to the fact that FDR destroyed the balance between the states and the federal government and used the commerce clause as a carte blanch grant of federal power
    he also used his power to silence critics, imprisoned Japanese Americans, and agreed to the repatriation of polish slaves to Russia.

    just a horrible, horribly person and leader.

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    Re: Best US President

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    not even close.
    That's what I was going to say, but some people have no historical perspective. Same person said Reagan was the best and Obama was the worst. Maybe of the last 30 years....though Clinton and Bush come close on either end of the spectrum of best and worst since 1981.


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    Re: Best US President

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Isn't it strange that the President who founded the Democratic Party was a genocidal murderer of indigenous people and the President who was responsible for freeing the slaves was a Republican?
    Not at all. It is best to take the facts or results first and retro-actively trace back to the causes. So Lincoln as a Republican meant that the Civil War was caused by the capitalists desiring cheap and obedient labor from freed slaves. Jackson as a Democrat meant he wanted to protect the majority from hostility by incompatible races. The required view of these actions today is not a realistic one. New does not mean improved, it now only means confused.
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    Re: Best US President

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post

    worst.president.ever.
    James Buchanan and Andrew Johnson beg to differ.


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    Re: Best US President

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    he also used his power to silence critics, imprisoned Japanese Americans, and agreed to the repatriation of polish slaves to Russia.

    just a horrible, horribly person and leader.
    some presidents were lousy in their day because they were corrupt or accomplished nothing (Harding-corrupt, Filmore-nothing accomplished)

    FDR was a great leader in terms of getting stuff done. SO was Stalin. What FDR got done was bad for the country. You can claim he was a great president and still damn him as being awful for America. I don't think the leftwing fawning fans of him understand that. Incompetence like Grant does not have long term pernicious harm

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    Re: Best US President

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    That's what I was going to say, but some people have no historical perspective. Same person said Reagan was the best and Obama was the worst. Maybe of the last 30 years....though Clinton and Bush come close on either end of the spectrum of best and worst since 1981.
    Obama isn't even the worst president this century

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    Re: Best US President

    Quote Originally Posted by NotEliTanenbaum View Post
    I don't like Andrew Jackson either. My short list comes from a survey that compared the opinions of liberal and conservative historians on the best US Presidents. Because both groups ranked Jackson on their top ten list, at positions seven and six respectively, I added him to the short list, figuring some people may actually like him. You can find the survey here. Good question.
    I'd eliminate Wilson, Truman, and Adams. My ranking would be Jefferson, Jackson, Monroe, Polk, Teddy Roosevelt, Washington, Lincoln, FDR, Reagan, and Eisenhower.
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    Re: Best US President

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    James Buchanan and Andrew Johnson beg to differ.
    Carter and Wilson too

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    Re: Best US President

    Quote Originally Posted by PrometheusBound View Post
    I'd eliminate Wilson, Truman, and Adams. My ranking would be Jefferson, Jackson, Monroe, Polk, Teddy Roosevelt, Washington, Lincoln, FDR, Reagan, and Eisenhower.
    Love Polk in your list. Good president that people tend to forget about.
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