View Poll Results: Who Was the Best US President?

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  • Abraham Lincoln

    15 14.15%
  • Franklin Roosevelt

    26 24.53%
  • George Washington

    10 9.43%
  • Thomas Jefferson

    9 8.49%
  • Theodore Roosevelt

    6 5.66%
  • Woodrow Wilson

    1 0.94%
  • Andrew Jackson

    2 1.89%
  • Harry Truman

    0 0%
  • Lyndon Johnson

    2 1.89%
  • Other (please list below)

    35 33.02%
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    Re: Best US President

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    It's my honest opinion. he was an absolute disaster, and the damage he caused is still causing ripple effects.
    An absolute disaster? The American people certainly disagreed around that time - as do most historians now (apparently).
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    Re: Best US President

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    An absolute disaster? The American people certainly disagreed around that time
    don't make we Godwin this thread

    - as do most historians now (apparently).
    yep, they love the presidents that take us to war and fundamentally change the political landscape. most people reject our views on just about everything too. so does that make libertarianism wrong?

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    Re: Best US President

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    FDR was not a failure if you supported massive mutations of the constitution, massive expansion of the federal government and rejection of over 100 years of precedent by the USSC. So FDR was certainly a "great president" to the left. For those of us who wanted the limited federal government the founders envisioned, FDR was the most malignant and pernicious president ever with Wilson and LBJ close seconds for the same reasons
    We should be able to reverse what he has done that is so terrible for the US. It has been decades since his measures were instituted. We have seen wrongheaded decisions be reversed before such as the 18th Amendment being repealed with the passing of the 21st Amendment, regulation of the financial industry instituted after in the crash of 1929 only to be repealed in the 1999 as it was the Glass–Steagall Act essentially ignored, then Obama in his banking bill, to name a few.
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    Re: Best US President

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    don't make we Godwin this thread



    yep, they love the presidents that take us to war and fundamentally change the political landscape. most people reject our views on just about everything too. so does that make libertarianism wrong?
    It certainly doesn't. I'm not gonna argue that FDR was the best of all time but I will argue that he wasn't the worst. Grant, IMO was the worst. For one, he was on the bad side of the War of Northern Aggression. Second, he did absolutely nothing positive with his Presidency. Third, the only thing that significantly happened during his time in office was the Black Friday scandal and rampant corruption throughout his office because of promised positions from his time as leader during the War.
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    Re: Best US President

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    It certainly doesn't. I'm not gonna argue that FDR was the best of all time but I will argue that he wasn't the worst. Grant, IMO was the worst. For one, he was on the bad side of the War of Northern Aggression. Second, he did absolutely nothing positive with his Presidency. Third, the only thing that significantly happened during his time in office was the Black Friday scandal and rampant corruption throughout his office because of promised positions from his time as leader during the War.
    Grant's actions had no real future ramifications for the country so I don't find your criteria to be particularly useful in weighing the worst.

    FDR has. the heavily divided political climate we see today was born out of his fundamental shifting of what the Federal government does.

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    Re: Best US President

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    don't make we Godwin this thread
    Eh, when you're talking about FDR, I think a Hitler reference is historically appropriate.


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    Re: Best US President

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    Grant's actions had no real future ramifications for the country so I don't find your criteria to be particularly useful in weighing the worst.
    Of course he did -- Reconstruction happened mostly during his Presidency.


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    Re: Best US President

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    Grant's actions had no real future ramifications for the country so I don't find your criteria to be particularly useful in weighing the worst.

    FDR has. the heavily divided political climate we see today was born out of his fundamental shifting of what the Federal government does.
    What good does spreading corruption throughout your Cabinet do?
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    Re: Best US President

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    What good does spreading corruption throughout your Cabinet do?
    to judge the worst, I deal with the negative things they created.

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    Re: Best US President

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Of course he did -- Reconstruction happened mostly during his Presidency.
    so explain it for me. expand on how his actions continually created problems 20-30-even 60 years after he was gone.

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