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    Re: Free Trade

    Quote Originally Posted by Snake_Plissken View Post
    Free Trade offers Consumer more choices, I will agree with that part, but with a hidden cost.

    Does it produce more efficiency, maybe.

    Does it kill US employment, yes.

    Free Trade has brought in thousands of Junk Imports, many of those products are laced with Lead and others have killed our Pets, made people sick, etc.

    Due to Cheap Import Products, many US companies have moved manufacturing to cheap labor Countries.

    Call me crazy, but if 80% of the foreign imports were no longer available, I would not be sad, yes I would be willing to pay more for American Made, but also most of my fellow Americans would have a job too
    Any Capitalist...regardless of stripe...must inherently see Free Trade as worthwhile.

    These companies will succeed or fail, based on income.

    There is no negative in a capitalist formula.

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    Re: Free Trade

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I strongly disagree with that. The only reason for free trade is to outsource to a country where you can pay workers a drastically cheaper wage. 80 hour work weeks, 23-37 cents an hour, lack of worker protection laws and lack of environmental laws is why companies outsource to China.Free trade just means businesses can pocket more money at the expense of workers. This does not in any shape or form improve the product or choices. It just means it is another corner to cut and that companies without any restrictive tariffs in place can undermine actual American companies and goods.Which causes those local companies to drastically cut corners on their products in order to compete with outsourced companies,this is why some American products are crap now.All the big screen TVs at wal-mart don't mean dick if your decent paying job is outsourced and as a result you have to take a lower paying job.

    washingtonpost.com: Chinese Workers Pay for Wal-Mart's Low Prices
    Li said these factories often require employees to work as many as 80 hours per week during the busy season for $75 to $110 per month, violating Chinese labor laws.
    Conservative?
    This is one conservative who can think for himself.

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    Re: Free Trade

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    The U.S. was started as independent states, united under a free trade and common protection agreement.It's been absolutely horrible for us, to trade freely between the different states, right?
    The United States is one country.We're not trying to become one country with China,India or some other country companies outsource to. If a company outsources from New York to Oklahoma the only difference is that the wages might be slightly less.There won't be no 80 hour work weeks, 23-37 cents an hour, lack of worker protection laws and lack of environmental laws for a company to exploit.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

    Cicero Marcus Tullius

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    Re: Free Trade

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    You do not seem to see what the effect of tarriffs are, so I thought perhaps if you thought about it on a smaller scale that you would then see the effect. If nation A has 70% of the shoe export market, and nation B has 70% of the wheat export market, does sit make any sense to ignore that and insist on nation A trying to produce its own wheat, and nation B trying to establish its own shoe industry?
    It saves both nations a lot of time, money and trouble to simply trade with each other. I guess you think that the USA can be totally self contained, just like you are, since you grow (or hunt for) all of your own food, make all of your own clothing, furniture and appliances (and are thus likely way too busy to make anything to sell). Nations, just as people, cities, counties and states would be foolish to try to do everything for themselves and ignore trading with others, selling what they can make a surplus of and then buying what they lack.
    I never said I was against trading with other countries.Not once did I say the US should be self contained. What I do not support is unrestricted trade.I do not support companies being allowed to outsource so that they can have workers work 80 hour work weeks for 23-37 cents an hour, lack of worker protection laws and lack of environmental laws. No American company can compete with those things without drastically cutting corners to their products.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

    Cicero Marcus Tullius

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