View Poll Results: Last two years beginning of a downward slide for Public Sector Unions?

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  • Yes, their power has waxed and now it shall wane.

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  • Unions will respond and their power will grow.

    14 19.18%
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Thread: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    When they left an area? What does that mean? You seem to not be aware that you either take claim to property or you don't.
    It means exactly what is says. Which word don't you understand?



    Let's try this. What do YOU think "... ancient tribes "owned" the land only in so far as they stopped other tribes from using it" means???
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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    NO. You do not.
    Now its your turn - is this self ownership in the Constitution?
    It's above, prior to and independent of, the constitution. It would make no sense for human rights to originate with a document we wrote. How would we have known WHAT to write in the first place, if it originated from the document itself?

    An example below:

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men,
    Government, such as ours. Your willingness to hand over absolute authority to government just to pad your pension is tragic. We all have a price I suppose.

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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I gave you a straight and no nonsense answer to your question. Are you going to answer mine?
    What do you think those rights are based on?

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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    A right only exists if you have it to exercise. If your government does not recognize what you claim is a right - then you simply do not have it and it does not exist for you.

    That is called reality.

    Nothing I say or do changes that reality. Nothing I believe or do not believe changes that reality.
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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    What do you think those rights are based on?
    Again, you play prosecutor with me on the stand. No thank you.

    Your turn: Is this "self ownership" a right listed in the US Constitution?
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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Many younger doctors will use the Internet regularly when they see a patient. Ask people that go to the doctor all the time and they will testify to this.
    No doubt consulting cloud storage or maybe even simply LAN storage instead of the Internet. I doubt the common Joe would know the difference and no doubt you are scrambling even now to find out what those terms mean.
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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    It means exactly what is says. Which word don't you understand?
    Well what I get out of it is if they left the land they have no interest in the land any further renouncing their claims. In the context given that appears to be accurate, but I'm assuming you meant something else.

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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Do you have the right to with you body as you see fit or not? Answer the question hay.
    Does a pregnant woman have these bodily rights you seem to believe in so much? No??? LOL! So much for rights.
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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    No doubt consulting cloud storage or maybe even simply LAN storage instead of the Internet. I doubt the common Joe would know the difference and no doubt you are scrambling even now to find out what those terms mean.
    That is interesting considering I saw the website in person as they were looking at it.

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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Does a pregnant woman have these bodily rights you seem to believe in so much? No??? LOL! So much for rights.
    You assume much in my position on that and much on the facts of the topic.

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