View Poll Results: Last two years beginning of a downward slide for Public Sector Unions?

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  • Yes, their power has waxed and now it shall wane.

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  • Unions will respond and their power will grow.

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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    BTW that is an idiotic bit of propaganda you quoted. Peoples world? MIght as well cite the Daily Kos or DU
    The figures are from the census:

    U.S. Poverty: Census Finds Nearly Half Of Americans Are Poor Or Low-Income

    But in matters not for the question, what percentage of your fellow citizens living in poverty would you find acceptable to maintain the record wealth by the 1%?
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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    its a stupid question. Those who do well owe nothing to you. Your life and your situation is note their fault
    The more important question is why do you think the super rich are owed so very much?
    Total tax rates- People living in poverty: 16.2%. The median American: 27%. Working people who make over $140k/year: 31%. The top 1%: 30%. Super rich investors: around 15%. Help the democrats retake the house.

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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    The more important question is why do you think the super rich are owed so very much?
    Again another moronic question. I don't think they are "owed" anything. They have what they have because they have it. I don't sit around worrying why. Why do you think you are entitled to what they have when you have done nothing to deserve it?

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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The figures are from the census:

    U.S. Poverty: Census Finds Nearly Half Of Americans Are Poor Or Low-Income

    But in matters not for the question, what percentage of your fellow citizens living in poverty would you find acceptable to maintain the record wealth by the 1%?
    Poor or LOW INCOME-not the same thing as poverty

    and while my grandfather was a millionaire more than a few times over. he died without ever having a "remote control" an I-Pad, a plasma tv, a cell phone, a blackberry and most of his life he didn't live in a house with air-conditioning. All stuff that most of our "poor" take for granted.

    Go and meet with the people living next to the runways at the Cali airport in Columbia or the nomadic tribesman on the plains of Tanzania and then get back to me what poverty really means

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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Out innovate them just like we used to do before the GOP tax cuts for outsourcing. Why do you think it is right to make the working class in this country suffer to increase competition while the fat cats are raking in record wealth?
    Out innovate them!

    That will get you real growth that they can't catch, lol. News break: technology is easily reversed engineered. News break: When the government innovates for public consumption it creates monopolies. News Break: When they give subsidies to private companies it creates unfair advantages in the market. Great job understanding the world there mate.

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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    The more important question is why do you think the super rich are owed so very much?
    Really? Of all the questions you could of chosen the question you pick is why the rich are owed something? Did you notice that the problem is you are wanting from them? Nope..

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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Go and meet with the people living next to the runways at the Cali airport in Columbia or the nomadic tribesman on the plains of Tanzania and then get back to me what poverty really means
    It took long enough for you to admit that you think until the working class in this country are as poor as the nomadic tribesman on the plains of Tanzania, they should keep sacrificing to maintain the record wealth of the 1%.

    Thanks for being honest! Its like pulling teeth with you.
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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Again another moronic question. I don't think they are "owed" anything. They have what they have because they have it. I don't sit around worrying why. Why do you think you are entitled to what they have when you have done nothing to deserve it?
    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Really? Of all the questions you could of chosen the question you pick is why the rich are owed something? Did you notice that the problem is you are wanting from them? Nope..
    Lets just take it back a step. Different societies split up the proceeds of people's labors differently. Some give the lion's share to the person actually doing the work, others give a larger share to the owner of the company. The US has the dial cranked as far in favor of the owner as possible. You seem to think that having the dial cranked as far that way as possible is some sort of god given right the super rich have. So, again, why is that? Why do you feel that they are owed so very much of our GDP?
    Total tax rates- People living in poverty: 16.2%. The median American: 27%. Working people who make over $140k/year: 31%. The top 1%: 30%. Super rich investors: around 15%. Help the democrats retake the house.

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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    It took long enough for you to admit that you think until the working class in this country are as poor as the nomadic tribesman on the plains of Tanzania, they should keep sacrificing to maintain the record wealth of the 1%.

    Thanks for being honest! Its like pulling teeth with you.
    How much freedom are you willing to destroy in order to make life "fair". How many rich people do you want to kill and take their wealth in order to slake your feelings of being treated unfairly by the "system"?

    the fact is, I see government attempts to make things "fair" to be far more pernicious than a system that allows some to become very wealthy and others-like you-left to complain about their wealth.

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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    Lets just take it back a step. Different societies split up the proceeds of people's labors differently. Some give the lion's share to the person actually doing the work, others give a larger share to the owner of the company. The US has the dial cranked as far in favor of the owner as possible. You seem to think that having the dial cranked as far that way as possible is some sort of god given right the super rich have. So, again, why is that? Why do you feel that they are owed so very much of our GDP?
    faulty premise. Wage and hour laws and minimum wage as well as the death/estate taxes and a progressive income tax that makes the top 5% pay more of the tax bill than the rest of the country combined cut against your idiotic claim that it is cranked as far as possible

    that is a lie and you know it.

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